16 Mar 2018 12:52:21
Genuine question here.
Do people think we are so negative because Jose doesn't trust the back 4? But the reason it's not been fully addressed yet is the amount of work our midfield needed when he took over?
16 Mar 2018 13:46:02
Yer Jose was known to be a flamboyant attack minded manager before he come to United.
16 Mar 2018 14:11:17
Jred, that’s a fair, if sarcastic point, but when he trusts his teams they tend to become more attacking if not swashbuckling ;)
16 Mar 2018 14:12:53
I agree with jred here. Even if we sort the defence out I still expect Jose to play like we did against Liverpool against other big teams. He is all about containing and counter attacking on a mistake. When we played real when Nani got sent off we dominated them with a much more inferior team. That day he had a defence of arbeloa, Pepe, Ramos and Marcelo. It wasn’t till the red they started to play. I don’t have confidence that sorting the defence out will mean we will be more expansive. It’s just jose’s Way.
16 Mar 2018 14:52:25
Sorting the defense out will allow Mourinho to play his way and play to his tactics .
16 Mar 2018 15:22:27
Good point jred.
16 Mar 2018 15:43:27
I think with a better defence we'll play similarly but concede less sh*te goals and so win more often.
{Ed004's Note - We will also be hopefully better going forward as the attacking players will have more freedom. Won't be constantly worried about the defence. Additionally, better full backs will improve our attack without doubt. Imagine having full backs that can cross}
16 Mar 2018 16:12:19
His madrid team were top ever goal scorers the year they beat Barcelona to the title. That is the best Barcelona team ever. His title winning side 3 years ago with chelsea were attacking too.
{Ed004's Note - exactly. They were all built on incredibly strong defences too. Something we are blatantly lacking despite the goals against column}
16 Mar 2018 16:51:51
Yes 004 . i was at the game on tue. Valencia is a fit man but his pace has gone and a full back without pace is ineffective. He is finished and looks like he is drowning out there just like neville and evra towards the end.
You have faith in shaw in 4 years I've seen nothing to warrent that faith. Coleman had a worse leg break and is back flying fit as a flea. Shaw is just getting bigger.
Id go 433 with 2 new full backs a parner for pogba just ahead of maric sanchez left mata right rom up top.
Ideally an upgrade on mata in the summer too.
{Ed004's Note - Yeah I was adamant before the last month that we would be fine at right back next season with Valencia and Fosu however, it's becoming more and more clear that Valencias legs are going and Fosu isn't ready to take over so that'll need to be addressed in the summer. I'd rather play Sanchez on the right and let him link play and play the number 10 role basically. He doesn't have the legs to stretch teams anymore that we need on one side of the pitch.}
16 Mar 2018 16:56:56
I’ve not said that he’s go mental on the attack with a good back 4 jred. But maybe if we had a better back line he wouldn’t be playing 2 holding midfielders in a European game, guess we will get a better answer in the summer when we see the recruitment.
16 Mar 2018 18:09:30
I agree ken Valencia is finished. Love his attitude but he has lost that half yard of pace and is getting caught out positionally. Add to the fact he can’t cross and he is a passenger for me. Two new full backs, one on each side are so important. I would be very happy with Bellerin and Sandro which give us much needed pace. I think they would improve us but I’m still not convinced Jose will take the shackles off. That’s he only way we have any chance of catching city. Pragmatic negative football will not suffice.