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27 Dec 2017 11:48:44
Well, Pogba's back, and we haven't won a game. The, ' we would have beat City with him in the team'" argument, seems pretty specious, now. People were clutching at his return, as the answer to all our ills. I still have high hopes for him, but I said at the time, it's pretty depressing when a club the size of Utd, has to rely on a kid with a han.

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27 Dec 2017 11:59:59
To be fair he was employed extremely deep in the 2nd half yesterday to accommodate all the other attacking players we had on the pitch so he couldn’t do as much as I would have liked him to do. He is certainly a class above the rest of our midfield (except Matic though different players) .

The performances against Leicester (all game) and Burnley (2nd half) have been promising but extremely frustrating as we could / should have won both convincingly. Someone is going to get one hell of a beating soon, I’m predicting 5-0 against Southampton on Saturday.

27 Dec 2017 12:29:15
Forget city, we should be beating Burnley and Bristol and co .
Clever bloke Jose putting the spot light on city the only team in the league who spent more than us while we struggle against teams that we have spent 20 times more than .

Let's stop with the excuses, we have had a ruff patch time to roll the sleeves up and put it right.

27 Dec 2017 12:43:40
Jred - If we could win every game when on paper we have the strongest team then we'd win well over 30 league games every season, football just doesn't work like that. We have some good players but most of them are inconsistent. If we want to win the league then we need better players. To get better players we need to spend money Jose is absolutely spot on. I don't understand the debate we're actually doing well this season. He's still building and he wants the money to continue the build. How can you compete when City spend over £80m and PSG have just spent over £350m on two players. I think we all need a reality check.

27 Dec 2017 12:48:32

Agreed, rough patch, most teams have them, we always had them under Fergie, often around this time, I remember getting battered by Middlesbrough one Christmas. We used to react well to the bad patches so hopefully we will again.

27 Dec 2017 13:05:30
It's just excuses pal smoke and mirrors and deflects away from the fact we are currently going through a ruff patch.

West Brom, Bournemouth, Bristol Leicester, Burnley has been a pretty poor run and the whole we haven't spent enough is B. S.

Our players are not consistent enough? Major part of a managers job is to get his players to play consistently well .

1 . We drew with Leicester and Burnley and it's because we haven't spent enough? Maybe we just didn't play well .
Maybe the decision to play and start with ibra was a really bad one considering his form in the last game .
Lingard been playing very well of late got to wonder what he done to end up on the bench .

Teams have ups and down the answer isn't always to spend spend spend .

Yes city spent a lot in the summer but so did we, but really only walker and ederson have had an impact.

If only we could get martial and co playing consistently well like sterling and co .

Or pogba to the level of kdb who is a REAL game changer .
I keep reading the squad isn't good enough but that's the same squad that is second and not really playing great at the moment .
Imagine if we where?

27 Dec 2017 13:42:01
Jred - your posts are always fairly positive mate but I'm not sure if you side with the players, manger or both or you just think we need to be patient?

Do you think if we kept everything the same and Jose swapped sides with Pep that he'd win us the league with our squad?

I agree maybe Jose could get more out of certain players but the way he wants to set up doesn't suit their strengths! He prefers a 4-2-3-1 formation which I personally don't feel gets the most from our best players including Pogba who I believe we should build our team around. Having said that I like him as a manger and just feel he needs time to get in the players he wants. If we want success quickly then he needs the money to do this and there is no doubt City have backed Pep and got him everything he asked for.

27 Dec 2017 13:44:19
Pogba played well yesterday, what do we want him to do? Shoot lasers out of his eyes while he scores goals from the halfway line? We had the chances to win in all these games and did not execute up front.

Our young players in attack are inconsistent (Rashford, Martial, lingard, Lukaku) but when they have a good patch we score boat loads and if they all misfire we drop points.

Our back line has been incredibly inconsistent due to injury, and we have conceded some very poor goals.

We often see a debate on here where everyone says they want to youth given a chance, attacking formations and drop a few points rather than grind out boring games of turgid anti football. Well this is what that looks like! Inconsistent young forwards who blow hot and cold and you concede a few goals because you aren't playing all out defense.

I actually enjoyed the game yesterday. Maybe I'm a sadist, but I enjoyed seeing the attacking substitutions, the spirit of the team in fighting back. Every throw, every kick, every corner was taken with a sense of action and the pressure on Burnley was immense. It was like a proper utd team response.

The improvement is coming, we have a few missing pieces but the Fergy hangover has gone.

27 Dec 2017 13:58:34
Great post Dodgy.

27 Dec 2017 14:28:56
Good post DB. Soot on.

27 Dec 2017 14:47:26
This wasn't a dig at Pogba, fellas. It was a dig at the fact a lot of our fans were pinning their hopes on the return of one player, which at a club with the stature of Utd, is quite a sad state of affairs.

27 Dec 2017 16:07:28

I enjoyed it too mate, attacking substitutions and going for it is what a lot have been asking for.

27 Dec 2017 17:13:21
You guys talk like it’s City v United, Jose v Pep. A certain manager called Conte is out there as well, who won the league in his first season and also has a bottomless pit of money at his disposal. There’s more than City to worry about.

27 Dec 2017 17:22:12
Yes I think if pep was our manager and Jose at city we would be doing better .
But that's just an opinion .
The facts are Jose has never managed a team that has started a season as good as city .

I'm not taking any thing away from Jose he is a good manager but I think pep is better and I think the facts back it up .
During the summer I was shot down about pep but look at his barce team his Munich team and now his city team and tell me who is better?

As for our squad the excuses we need to buy x y and z are excuses .
Everyone has given dogs abuse to otamendi stones delph sterling .
Sane was inconsistent last season, but is playing out his skin now .

Is pogba a great player? Because our best player can't lace the boots of kdb or Silva at the moment. To be honest I think he is as good as them just not playing well .

We need a cb? We bought lindelof it hasn't worked out .
We need a cm? We broke the world transfer record for pogba paired him with matic .
Is Herrera a bad player? Because every told me he was a good player only a few month ago .
We spent the best part of a 100 mil on the striker Jose wanted .
We need creativity we bought Miki, everyone told me what a great player he was the same people are now saying we have to buy perisic .
No doubt if we buy perisic he will be amazing . For the record Miki is top class just not playing well .

Really good squad this that good that we are second in the league with out hitting top gear yet .
If it's as poor as people make out how are we second .
Do we need to buy? Yes every time does and will .

Do we need to buy to play better than we are now? Defiantly not.

27 Dec 2017 18:21:35
And whilst your all concerned about City, have you seen how much the scouser have just paid for Van Dijk.



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