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10 Aug 2017 07:29:37
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danny rose,
'time is running out and I do want to win trophies, I don't want to play football for 15 years and not have one trophy or one medal. Sorry, that's not what I am about, I wouldn't be happy with that. I want to win something.

'I will say this too, I will play up north'

'I'm not saying I want out but if something came to me that was concrete I'd have no qualms about voicing my opinion to anyone at this club'

Make of that what you will.

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10 Aug 2017 08:13:26
It's pay me what I'm worth or let me go. Levy will go ok we want £50 plus million for him.

10 Aug 2017 08:15:00
He's a lot better than Walker so God knows how much Levy would want, assuming he would sell. I think he would be a good buy, width is the challenge for us right now.

10 Aug 2017 08:34:31
Would Levy take a slightly lower fee just to get him out of the club? I doubt it myself but you never know he certainly didn't hold back in the interview.

10 Aug 2017 09:24:52
In Fergies Wenger baiting days he said when having a dig at Arsenal something along the lines of its great to play lovely football, be everyone second team etc etc but when you don't actually win anything you are just another team and the players start to ask if they are at the right club.

Danny Rose said on their tour a few weeks ago Kane would never leave - but others might wonder if they need to move if they don't win anything . Erikson, Ali, vertonghen have no real ties to Spurs so they could move away

The media try and put a spin on UTD would have to fight Spurs for Bale due to a clause that Spurs get the chance to match any offer made for him up to 2019 I think. with a ceiling of 100k a week would Bale go back when at 300k a week elsewhere he would be turning down over 40 million on a 5 year deal because he loves Spurs? no chance . Levy better wake up before that squad breaks up.

10 Aug 2017 10:17:20
If we were to sign anybody from the spuds I would go for aulderwield.

10 Aug 2017 10:31:40
I don't think it's about Levy "waking up", Spurs are a growing club but as yet they aren't a big club capable of competing financially with clubs such as Real Madrid, Barcelona and ourselves. Our income is probably around double what Spurs is if not more. It's not so much about Levy not wanting to pay players more but about it not being a financially sensible idea to do so.

If Spurs paid players like Kane, Lloris, Alli, Rose, Eriksen, Walker, Dembele, Dier, Vertonghen and Anderwield the extra 40-60k each a week they might get at another club then the wage bill will increase by 40-50m a season. That also doesn't factor in that if their top players got a pay rise then wouldn't players such as Sissoko, Tripper, Davies, Son, Lamela ect all want a pay rise too, maybe not to the same level but a comparable increase.

That's why it's important for clubs to have a sustainable and sensible pay structure which cannot be broken. If Spurs could increase their profits by 150m a year then I'm sure you'll see their wage structure increase with it.

This is the reason why the only teams to have broken into to top club category in the last 20 years have been clubs who have received massive outside investment. Chelsea, City, PSG ect. These clubs were never considered top clubs until they received outside investment as it's almost impossible for a club to take that huge step up without the security of an outside investor picking up the tab of the club falls short.

In England the last club to try it without a huge backer was Leeds, they borrowed money to buy and pay top wages to top players. But in order to pay off those debts they needed to win the big competitions, they didn't and they ended up having to sell off players to pay the debt. Then the quality not their first team dropped and they were stuck with squad players on high wages who weren't good enough and they went down.

Spurs need to either win things the way they are doing it now or find an investor who'll stump up the cash to take them to the next level.

10 Aug 2017 10:49:15
Rose if his injuries cleared up would be great for us. Rose and Peresic would give a real solid left side for both attack and defence.

I could see Pochatino looking at Shaw if we went in for Rose.

10 Aug 2017 11:21:22
I would agree with a lot of that Shappy if it were not for the fact that Spurs do have mega richer backers, they just won't change the structure . You can argue its prudent but the best 11 players getting an extra 50k a week is an outlay of around 28 mil a year . which is peanuts, and actually should be seen as a slight on why their marketing men aren't bringing in the big money . top 2 finish last 2 years, cl football, london club new stadium etc etc

Very shortsighted of them I think if the squad breaks up for the sake of 28 mill a year . a new sponsor on their sleeve must be 6-7 mill a year alone.

10 Aug 2017 12:14:34
Ahh, Leeds Football Club, remember them? 😂.

10 Aug 2017 12:41:21
Boyfromburrenway, its not just the increase in wages for their first 11 though. If you increase their wages then you will have to up the wages of the squad players too, then the youth players want more as well.

This is the issue we have with trying to offload our squad players. We have guys like Blind, Fellaini, Smalling, Lingard ect on 100-140k a week. Spurs squad players will not accept being paid 50k a week while the first 11 are getting 160-180k a week. If Spurs were to pay the wages we do then their wage bill will increase by 50-60m a year easily.

Unless Spurs win a couple of titles of a European trophy they will struggle to get the support they need to push on. Increasing their wage gives them a better chance of winning something but no guarantees. It's a gamble that the owners don't feel is worth taking.

10 Aug 2017 13:38:08
Yes shappy, I see all that and respect your opinion differs to mine -you make a lot of good points, I don't agree with all of them but with the money flooding in I think Spurs are at that crossroads, gamble now or risk losing some very good players in a settled team.

Thanks for your opinion always nice to get a decent bit of chat on here.



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