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21 Jul 2017 20:15:24
I don't think we should be held to ransom in trying to sign players such as Perisic and Matic. No doubt they are very good players but both are approaching their 30's and to pay upwards of £40m is excessive.

I think Jose is frustrated but understands that the market is difficult and Utd don't have a bottomless pit of money! They have backed him handsomely in both windows breaking the transfer record twice to sign Pogba and Lukaku in addition to the signings of Bailly, Miki, Lindelof and Zlatan (albeit on a fee he still commanded astronomical wages)!

Everybody wants instant success but to return us to the very top is going to take time and patience. I read the rumours that Jose wants to stay at the Club and build a dynasty and what we need now is some stability. We have a great spine in De Gea, Bailly, Pogba and now Lukaku. All are still very young, talented and ambitious. In Rashford, Martial and Shaw we have great potential and good experience with players such as Carrick, Herrera, Mata and Valencia.

I think it's up to Jose to get the best out of what we've got and I'm not sure he did that last year. Although we had a fantastic season winning two trophies we failed in the bread and butter games and our league position was unacceptable. The trophy wins will hopefully help to forge a winning mentality and bring a hunger and desire for more success.

I think Pogba will improve this season and be more dominant from midfield but it's the forward players that really under achieved last season. I think this was partly due to Jose being a touch pragmatic but we also suffered from inconsistency in our forward line.

If we are going to mount any kind of challenge then Miki must step up and be counted this season. I expect us to predominately play 4-2-3-1 with Miki at No 10. If he can supplement Lukaku and score us 15 league goals from that position then we'll have a chance.

I think we'll see more bespoke performances for the big games possibly matching teams like Chelsea and Spurs and playing 3 at the back.

My point to this long and convoluted post is that I think we can righty expect more from a lot of players this season and I'm hoping we'll see a different Pogba and Miki this year who in themselves will be like two new signings.

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22 Jul 2017 07:01:39
Honestly Danny, I couldn't care less what they spend, over or under said 'market' value.

We will not see any of it personally so I don't care what the club spend on players. If they spend 50m on matic, then I'm sure they are not stuck for the cash.

22 Jul 2017 07:38:21
Danny. Good post and I admire your faith in the team. We do have a nucleus of a good team, but this team is not going to win the PL, nor is it going to progress in the CL. We have a lot of good players but for me, we don't have a natural top class winger, nor do we have top class defensive midfielder (kroos), nor do we have full backs of attacking quality. Valencia is great defensively but very shy going forward and can't cross. Shaw will never make it at United and his first touch gets him into trouble. He's also very poor mentally.
We need world class players to take this team to the next level. Sanchez, Kroos or Veratti, and two top class full backs.
If we don't buy these, then we will not be winning the PL I'm afraid, in fact top 4 will be a fight again.

22 Jul 2017 09:32:26
Schmid

I agree and repeat, I think with what we have we would be looking at 3rd at best. If they don't buy the top level like Sanchez, Bale or Neymar for the No7 shirt we won't be winning the league or the CL. The Matic and Perisic route might cement top 4 but not a league winning team. I am still concerned at whether there are enough goals in the team. I would want Rashford to play so would look at a goal scoring wide player. Bale or Sanchez would be ideal but will we see the club being ambitious enough?

22 Jul 2017 09:41:27
Angel - I totally agree and personally I don't care less what they spend and I've argued that point in the past. What I meant is that we obviously don't have unlimited resources so if signing Matic and or Perisic will impact on our ability to sign Greizman if he becomes available or Verratti or Bale for example then I'd prefer us to be patient. Whilst I think Perisic and Matic are both good players I'm not sure they're much better than what we've already got. I think we've got a good nucleus of young talented players and I also think Jose could get a bit more out of some players he's already got.

Schmid - I agree mate but I think we're heading in the right direction. I think Lukaku will score goals and I'm hoping Miki can be our Sanchez or Hazard. I think he won the Bundesliga player of the year before he joined us, with the most assist and a decent goal scoring record (forgive me I haven't checked the stats) so I'm hoping with a season behind him now he'll kick on and become the player we all hoped we'd see last year. If Jose can get more consistent performances from Rashford, Martial and Lingard then we'll have a chance. We do need more but Jose can't do it all in three windows and I hope we're able to build on last year. I'm hoping Jose will stay for the foreseeable future and build a great squad capable of winning everything.

22 Jul 2017 09:41:00
JM is going all out for the Prem win this season so wants as many ready-made options as possible.

A deeper CDM will allow Pogba to attack more and Perisic will put loads of crosses in.

I'd rather have both signed that not - what with rejuvenated mhiki and Rashford too, I really feel we could win it this year. Man City still have defensive weaknesses (what with ageing Yaya and injury prone Gundagon), Chelseas squad looks a bit light.

Spurs aren't adding to the huge potential they have, Arsenal could go either way at the moment and Liverpool don't seem to be much better than last year, though apologies to any fellow fans who disagree - I'm no expert!

22 Jul 2017 10:36:09
Red Man - l agree I'm also worried about a lack of goals in the team. I think Lukaku has proven pedigree so there is no reason to believe he won't get us over 20 league goals next season. Beyond that things do look a little uncertain and we'll be relying on Miki, Rashford, Martial, Lingard and Mata to significantly improve their goal output. Like I posted earlier I think this is a big season for Miki. I think he'll play a lot of games at 10 this season so he needs to deliver. If he can supplement Lukaku with 15 or so goals and Rashford kicks on again then we'll have a great chance although I must confess it's a big ask as I don't think any of our others attackers managed double fingers for league goals last year! Everybody has looked hungry and sharp in pre season so maybe they can step up and improve. I think the talent in our squad is there but can they deliver consistently and it's this what separates the great players from the rest.

22 Jul 2017 14:24:43
Agreed red man If we get top quality world class wide player and defensive midfielder with great distribution, then we can challenge. But the only viable options are Sanchez and Veratti and fabinho.
Neymar will be great bit out of our league. So Sanchez is the only wide player available who can give us goals and width. Perisic is good but not great.
Danny, it all depends how ambitious the club is. If we want to be top dogs, then we have to buy the best players. Sanchez, Kroos and Veratti are exactly that.
If we want to plod along and be competitive but nothing special, then Perisic and matic will be bought.
I know what I want EW and mourinho and the Glazers to do, but sadly EW and the owners are singing from one hymn sheet and mourinho is not even singing!

{Ed004's Note - I don't think Verratti would be seen as a suitable alternative to Matic or Dier tbh. He's the type of calibre of signing we should be trying to make but he isn't a holding midfielder that will allow the other players to push on. I agree with Sanchez however it seems Griezmann was our primary target for that style of player}







 

 

 
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