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26 May 2017 23:55:15
It's a banter page and I have a different view to most, goals scored 8 th best last season, goals conceded 2 Nd best, I wouldn't blow the budget on defense, are they world beaters, nope was Tony v best RB in league, maybe, would u spend 40 million to replace him, nope . four international CBS are they great, nope did they concede many, nope . Surely kroos, fabinho, greizmann and bale to replace Fellini, Mata and Carrick makes more sense . bale will require zlatan type money . A mid three of pogba kroos and fabinho supporting bale greizmann, rashford / martial . If anything in defense a lb. Maybe Mendy . In short you can improve on most positions at utd I'd just have a different priority.

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27 May 2017 00:18:08
Is the warm weather getting to you?

27 May 2017 00:41:09
Ok manctom I'm sorry I don't agree Fellini isn't Gona turn into platini with a bit pre season training, and the sun's got to me with me thinking bale greizmann and kroos may make us a teeny weeny bit better.

27 May 2017 00:56:12
We don't need a Kroos type midfielder, we need a more mobile version of Carrick. Signing Bale for the money and wages it would take is bad business as his injury problems are only going to get worse.

27 May 2017 01:14:13
If I had to describe kroos it would probably be done by saying a more mobile version of Carrick but a bit more creative but weighed down a bit by all his medals . I'm surprised u don't rate bale and what he would be worth, Madrid do they have just won the league and are preparing for the champions league final . I get your point about his injuries but the only true superstar that maybe possible even if unlikely.

27 May 2017 04:50:51
Out of curiosity slate what do we do with hererra, if you don’t know him he is the Spanish guy who won player of the year for utd this season.

27 May 2017 07:44:47
Good points Slate, not sure I agree with all of them but I share the sentiment. As I have said so many tim s, we have good players, we just need to refine now. I would take a CB, a top midfielder, and 2 forwards, one of whom is very creative. I know that's a little vague but the 2 things lacking last year were dynamism and creativity. If we can add that then the players we have will look better.

I like Darmian, and I like Blind, not world beaters but very versatile and fantastic squad players. The youngsters should only get better, so if we can add some real quality across the pitch I think we will see a big improvement next year.

However, we need to but carefully. Kroos for me is class but I thought no is one paced, I'd like a lot more energy.

{Ed025's Note - you say the side lacks creativity and dynamism AJH, but is that down to the players or the managers tactics?..

27 May 2017 08:20:56
we won't be getting Kroos i think we will get a destroyer hoping Nianggolon for me and a top class cb to replace Blind Layporte is left side big strong and could compete with Rojo I think 4 in 5 out is what will happen Blind Rooney Carrick Ddg Zlatan are gone, Aubameyang Nianggolon Layporte Griezmann would be my hoped for targets. Aubameyang would be great for Rashford to learn of I see them as similar players in terms of style and attributes.

27 May 2017 09:04:38
I don't think we did lack creativity at all what we lacked was the ability to put those chances we created away.

We all seem to assuming that we will only sign four players but what we seem to forget is outgoings I personally think we could see upto 6/ 7 players coming in. Maybe four for stating positions and 2/ 3 for rotation/ padding.

27 May 2017 09:24:13
So our best player this season, who's being courted By Barcelona, suddenly needs replacing? You happy with Smalling and jones in the CL then yeh?

27 May 2017 09:52:33
Who's said replace Herrera there's hopefully 60 more games next season he would be able to be rested like this season but without suffering badly, 4 quality players for 3 spots isn't excessive maybe you rate Fellini more than I do or don't really want to see any challenge to Herrera's place, I'd certainly keep him . I noticed u quoted smalling and Jones for the champions league they aren't the first choices though a little omission of bailey to emphasise your point . Don't get me wrong would I like better CBS yes I'm just working on the theory the money pot isn't infinite if the money stretched that far of course I'd upgrade.

27 May 2017 11:37:27
For years we haven't corrected the defensive issues we have and it's limited us to us playing defensive game to protect our feeble back four. The stats merely reflect that we've set up defensively to account for this. When we tried to play open and attacking, we got destroyed. We need a solid back four who can be trusted so the midfield and forward players can be truly unleashed rather than burdened with protecting the defence.

27 May 2017 12:19:41
I agree with u to a point, but utd have tried to correct defensive issues over the last few years bailey, rojo, Shaw, blind and darmian, perhaps they could have done it better . The much disliked smalling and Jones are probably 4th and 5th choice cbs but are normally mentioned as the weakness . I do understand people would like a commanding CB to partner bailey but if we had baresi and the great wall of China at CB I still don't think Jose. Would instruct Everyone to bomb forward.

27 May 2017 18:10:34
The thing is slate I don't think the attackers are the biggest problem, yeh they've missed bags of chances. But I personally don't think Jose trusts his defence, and as such ends up using our wide players like full backs into a back 6 at times, and 2 midfield holding at times. I'm sure he'd like to be able to push up more but he's worried we will ship goals. So changing the attackers and not improving. Defence would leave to the same issues imo.

27 May 2017 19:03:27
Stands utd
It's a good argument u make but maybe he uses to many midfields to cover the defense as none of them are actually suited to do it, Carrick one of my favourite players isn't what he was, pogba can't play defensive shield well, Fellini not great at that either. Herrera can a bit but limits him . A fabinho or dier type may provide a shield to enable the others to attack more. Kroos was for a different reason we get dominated off a lot of the better sides and the guy is about the best at providing game control.







 

 

 
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