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27 Nov 2016 18:37:46
Worst points tally after 13 games since the start of the Premier League. Wow!

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27 Nov 2016 18:48:43
The performances are exciting though, that's what we all wanted wasn't it?

27 Nov 2016 18:55:20
What's point being sarcastic. GDS .
Any non football fan can see without wings and wingers. we are struggling to do anything genuine. but still 5 players wait at center and far post to get something from Valencia who is at half way line struggling between 2 marksman.
Funny. Jose is letting this happen.

27 Nov 2016 18:56:03
They area bit more exciting than last season recently, but that's like saying a 69 year old is younger than a 70 year old.

The shackles aren't off, the games still go into lulls, we have no real tempo. But we do have the occasional glimpse of what we are capable of, we just can't maintain it for more than 10 mins. We are still in 3rd gear, West Ham looked more likely to win that in the end for example, when we should be blitzing them with 20-30mins to go.

Manager not speaking after the game, yet more negativity.

27 Nov 2016 18:57:03
That doesn't bother me. This team is much better than the points suggest. We could easily have 8 more points on the board.

{Ed004's Note - Agreed. We are never going to win the league this season but this really should be the start of this new team gelling and by the start of next season we really should be ready to compete. Out of curiosity would posters now want Mourinho to put emphasis on winning the Europa league? Ie going out early of the other cups - obviously still trying our best in the league and try get top 4}

27 Nov 2016 19:13:22
Big mistake to focus on the Europa League. Anything can happen in a cup match. We have a big enough squad to compete in all comps. Let's face it we pinned all our hopes on LVG getting CL football his first season, he managed it and it was the worst CL campaign I have ever seen the following season. Those 6 matches, 4 of which are normally against weak teams, are not worth pining for alone, (CSKA, PSV, Wolfsburg and we didn't do Jack) . We need to be looking to win every game, playing the strongest team available for each game imo.

CL should be for elite teams, the media have hyped it up and we are also rans at the minute. I want to win things that we deserve to win personally, not fluke it.

Jose does well when he picks his best team week in week out, not meddling like LVG did. No reason to rest/ drop the good performers on Thursday, but he did it and we paid the price.

27 Nov 2016 20:08:22
I was just making a point, people came on here last season saying all they wanted was better football, they are getting it but obviously that isn't really what people want, they want results.

Agree with Tuor here, how anyone can say it's not that much better than last season is beyond me, 100 shots in the 4 home games we have drawn Beast, last season we were having 2 or 3 shots a game, it's entirely different.

No team can constantly be in 5th gear especially a team playing on thursday's and Sunday's, the facts are in the last 4 home games we have played well, created 100 chances and drawn all 4 games.

27 Nov 2016 21:07:49
How often have we been in 5th gear this season, do we even know what it is?

We didn't just want "better football", we wanted A LOT better football. Last season was the most boring season ever, the bar couldn't be lower in terms of entertainment standard, so Jose rather than clearing the bar with ease is letting it rattle as we struggle over it.

Shots don't mean chances, Pogba is shooting from Paris most games! It's like somebody scoring a tap in doesn't mean they played well. We are creating a few more chances, but again it isn't good enough. I don't watch other teams as often as I do Utd, but I bet most teams are consistently more entertaining that us and get results to go with it. We have a long way to go, that fact in my OP tells us what we need to know about real progress, most games this season have been like LVG ones, so let's not delude ourselves.

27 Nov 2016 22:28:31
Ed004, do you really think we're good enough to win the Europa League? I don't think I'd want to sacrifice a sustained effort at top 4 (which is looking increasingly unlikely, I have to admit), on the off chance that we get a kind route to a final. Although even that is getting ahead of ourselves at the minute - there could still be a sting in the tail in our group!

{Ed004's Note - I think we could be good enough to win the Europa league although putting all your eggs in one basket, especially relying on a cup competition is never a good idea. I'm trying to remain optimistic about this season and hoping it's only a matter of time before it all turns around}

27 Nov 2016 22:17:21
I think we should, and may have to, put emphasis on winning the Europa League. This team ought to be good enough to do that, along with making a push up the table in the league.

28 Nov 2016 05:55:43
Maybe that's what u ought to do beastie, watch some other teams. because I've had almost as much as I can with it neggis.

69 n 70 years old. Are u tripping? .

Yesterdays match, lvg never came close to in two years. Heck I think the team's created more chances this season than last 3 seasons combined.

Good things in life take time. And another wisdom pearl for u would be "calm the Frick down" I'll give urself a stroke.







 

 

 
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