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22 Jul 2016 15:18:51
Just watched the Dortmund game and I must say it wasn't great by any means. Some will say the result is irrelevant and in the grand scheme of things it probably is. Having said that a lot of players tried very hard especially Shaw and Bailly, the latter even picking up a yellow in frustration.

A few things to note, Shaw needs to keep his weight in check and I suppose that will come with more games under his belt. Other than that glad to see him get the full 90 minute run out. Mata was poor as was most of our senior players in truth.

Bailly looked awful in my opinion and Rojo is worse than a man down. The CB spot worries me and I still think we need someone commanding in there. Granted a few players were missing but I can only judge on what was on the field.

Our play was very slow and Dortmund looked like Barcelona as a result. One thing that did concern me was that a fair few times players were drawn to the ball and straying out of position frequently. Hopefully this is just a lack of mental as well as physical sharpness.

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22 Jul 2016 15:24:06
Bailly is the new desailly.

22 Jul 2016 15:26:15
Did mata play 10 .
Did we play 4231.

22 Jul 2016 15:29:55
MAZE,

I agree with a lot of this but does make me laugh how you have hardly posted for months, even after the Wigan game, we lose 4-1 and you are on within minutes of the final whistle.

I put it mainly down to lack of game time, that was Dortmund's 5th game, they weren't that much better than us, the conditions were clearly hot and humid and horrible and 2 of their goals were worldies while we played the first half with no striker.

I thought Rashford looked decent for his first game back, his touch is awesome and he loves a backheel and quick flick.

When we are missing Smalling, Darmian, Schneiderlin, Carrick, Schweinsteiger and more importantly Rooney, Martial and Zlatan it is no surprise we are lacking a bit of quality.

Not changed my mind on the players that need to leave, I think Rojo and Mata need to go, would expect Fellaini might go as well and maybe a couple of others. Januzaj had a few good runs and looked fast but end product still not there. Memphis is a huge issue as I don't think he will get a game ahead of the players we have in his position.

22 Jul 2016 15:30:07
DSG I don't know if your serious but if you got that from that performance then I was watching another game.

Yes Jred Mata played 10 but drifted around a little aswell. He was also given the arm band.

Not many positives from that game for me.

22 Jul 2016 15:35:53
jred,

Yes, but Herrera really didn't fit into that 2, not sure what we do with him, is he even good enough to stay, can't fault his workrate but not sure his quality is good enough.

22 Jul 2016 15:39:01
Bailly looked awful? I thought he had a good game.

Mata was poor? I thought him and Herrea looked good in the middle today.

Probably only three players who started today will start the first PL game of the season.

These games are about getting fitness up.

I recall us beating Madrid, Liverpool, Inter and Roma a few years back. We lost our first game home game of the season to Swansea.

22 Jul 2016 15:43:32
Bailly was one of our best players today, it's not saying much given the performance, but awful is beyond exaggeration. Mata was ok, but much of the mess in the first half was mostly thanks to depay not being able to keep the ball, we had at least 2 good chances in the first half, where depay couldn't outrun the defender or just hold it long enough for support to arrive. Not to mention the lingard chance, difference was they took theirs we fluffed ours, i am not saying it was a good performance far from it, but score line on another day could have been very close.

22 Jul 2016 16:08:30
If we play 4231 potentially 2 of or preferred back 5 played today.
None of the potential 2 played today
1 of the preferred 3
And what I'm guessing is the preferred 1 up top did not play
So 3 Miki Bailey and Shaw
Not one of the players played really well some were a lot worse than others. That imo can be expected at this stage of pre season.
BD were sharper in every area and as stated above they are a lot further in.
Rojo. Herrera. Young depay and Jones were absolute poison Shaw Bailey Miki Pereira were the best of our squad imo today. I would expect improvement in every game between now and season ko the sooner we get them all together at home next week the better.
If Jose is serious about his 22 man squad then there will be several players leaving before the end of Aug with at least 2 more coming in I guess.
I'd happily lose every game between now and the start of the season if we beat Bournemouth at the start of the season when the real business starts.

22 Jul 2016 16:17:39
Gds2 herreras best football has come in a traditional midifeld 3. Carrick sitting and herrera and fellaini ahead. Bring pogba or matuidi in for fellaini and that is a good midfield in my opinion.

22 Jul 2016 16:19:56
I think a lot of people are missing the fact that a few years ago this would have been seen as the reserve team. New starts and also rans mainly.
From thus Jose will have got the answers he wanted ie Who is willing to roll the sleeves up and who needs to be moved on or given bit parts.

22 Jul 2016 16:38:40
Dsg it is a good midfield as you say but we won't be playing that formation more often than not it appears we will play 2 in midfield behind 3 and 1 therein lies the issue for Herrera. We just might not play three system that suits him best which might make him redundant. But its too early to tell.

22 Jul 2016 16:49:51
I thought posters on here would have learned to ignore Maze at this stage as most of what he posts is complete drivel and attention seeking.

Watched the game, poor from us. But if there are nay positives I think Bailly looked decent and also Shaw too. Was great to see him back.

Also it will be interesting to see what Jose makes of it. If he feels we need more strengthening in different areas.

22 Jul 2016 16:53:46
Well said, Yer man.

22 Jul 2016 17:03:25
Well said Angel and yer man.

22 Jul 2016 17:14:31
Amen angel 😃.







 

 

 
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