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06 Jul 2016 15:41:14
I'm going to collaborate what Ed002 has said across various sites, including this one, so as to stop repetition of questions.

So from what I gather from 002's posts and various other things is that:

Woodward and Mendes met in Monaco yesterday. Mhiki final details were tied up, and the big one. The Pogba question was asked, but it seems like Matuidi was offered as an alternative to (as it was put) another player. As both Matuidi and Pogba share Mino Raiola as their agent, i'm fairly certain we can say it was Pogba he was offered as an alternative to.

However, 002 has said that he/ she/ it expects that Matuidi will stay where he is, at PSG. Obviously the question remains whether that is because:
a) Manchester United have said no to the option
b) PSG are not open to selling the player
c) The player himself doesn't wish to move

I am sure as his agent put him out there, we can assume that he would be open to leaving PSG - most likely in favour of higher wages at ourselves. After watching Mourinho's first presser I'm fairly confident in saying that it is us who has said no to the option, as it is pretty clear that Jose has a certain style of player in his mind and we can all agree that Matuidi and Pogba are nothing alike.

The final question that remains is whether he was offered as an alternative because:
a) Juventus are not open to selling
b) Pogba is not open to returning to Manchester United
c) It will be so hard to complete that even Raiola couldn't be ar*ed

My personal belief is a mixture between B and C, but only time will tell now as 002 has again taken a period of abstinence ;)

So folks, stop repeating things which have already been asked, as this took me about 20 minutes to catch myself up on. I hope I have compiled everything that has needed to, and apologies Ed002 if I have misconstrued anything you have previously said incorrectly.

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06 Jul 2016 16:05:40
Brilliant MPez thanks for info/ interpretation very helpful .

{Ed001's Note - on the second bit, it most defo is B, Pogba does not want to return.}

06 Jul 2016 16:13:15
Ed people will still want to sign him anyhow.

06 Jul 2016 16:16:35
Do you think there are other possibilities; like Gomez for example?

06 Jul 2016 16:31:45
Dunno why we're wasting our time on a player who doesn't WANT United, more like Mhkitaryan please who wanted us, this marquee business is silly, Wales and Leicester have surely shown people it's a team game not an individual one.

06 Jul 2016 16:38:38
jred nothing wrong in wanting someone like pogba, if he can be convinced we are completely right in trying, if we can't then move on, there are other players we can sign, as simple as that.

06 Jul 2016 16:41:48
Welsh
I agree, i think there is a chance this could run all summer.
I wouldn't rule him out, i think money talks when it comes to pogba but i just can't see madrid and zz missing out .
What other Galactico could they go for.

06 Jul 2016 16:52:42
Common
Im just going of the ed saying pogba defo doesn't want to come back to united .
If that's the case i wouldn't want him and like i you say move on .
But pogba will be on this site all summer one way or the other.

06 Jul 2016 16:59:11
Shame that, Ed001! Tbh i've never really been a fan of players leaving and coming back. Just as at one point the club didn't want you, it can be said that the player doesn't want the club. It seems clear that this is where Pogba stands, and fair play to him for sticking to his guns, as i'm sure it would be easy to take the monster wages we are no doubt offering him.

06 Jul 2016 17:03:34
that i agree with u about jred, pogba will most likely be this window's sneijder, ramos, vidal etc.

06 Jul 2016 17:32:40
I think real want pogba. But perhaps They are not prepared to pay what it takes to get him. A bit like ddg last season.
They also want lewandowski who would be considered a galactico.
They need to do big business this summer due to their imminent ban. They need to sell Kroos James moratta for big money too and possibly another one also.
I would love pogba to come back.

06 Jul 2016 17:45:53
Ken
Even if he really doesn't want to be at united?

06 Jul 2016 18:00:14
I think he would prefer Madrid but would come to United. Same as ddg so I would be happy with that.

06 Jul 2016 18:05:28
Just to elaborate, if he comes and we are successful and he is improving and enjoying his football he might come to the conclusion that he made a good choice for 4 or 5 years. That is what I am hoping and I see it as a possibility.

06 Jul 2016 18:15:29
He allready left once the ed told us then he wanted out .

06 Jul 2016 18:21:37
With all due respects to the Ed's how can they possibly know that Pogba doesn't want to return? Yes he has possibly stated the desire to work for one of the two big Spanish clubs, but I'm guessing that's true for most footballers.

{Ed001's Note - you ever thought we could have spoken to him or his agent and asked? It is not difficult to get to know agents and footballers you know.}

06 Jul 2016 18:30:51
The eds know plenty not in full circulation.
I don't doubt them. But there are players that have wanted to leave in the past but been paid to stay Keane ddg Rooney Robbo and I think all of them would ultimately be happy with their decision.

06 Jul 2016 18:45:25
Did they want to leave, or did they want the best deal they could get .
Its the oldest trick in the book .

06 Jul 2016 18:38:07
Then please ignore my ignorance in not understand how connected you were!

{Ed001's Note - it is the reason I started the site in the first place mate

06 Jul 2016 18:51:59
I really do think that Pogba will not come to us unless he has no offers from Madrid Barcelona PSG or Bayern. I am sure Jose will have back up options but let's be honest there are few if any similar type players of his quality available.

06 Jul 2016 19:05:10
Pogba got a much better deal to leave than what was on offer to stay. If United had paid him crazy money he would have stayed if he was played I'd imagine. Unless you grow up in the system so to speak heads can always be turned and even when players do grow up dyed in the wool red their head can still be turned Beckham being a prime example.

06 Jul 2016 19:08:54
The incredible urge to sign a player who does not want to play for the club is incredible.
With all due respect to Mr pogba balls to him I honestly couldn't give a shiny shit. If the transfer window closed right now I would be very happy.

06 Jul 2016 19:10:36
Ken
The ed told us at the time he changed his agent and was looking to get out 12 month before he left, its why fergy never really played him.

It was a hot topic on the site.

06 Jul 2016 19:06:00
Ed001, have MU given up on Pogba or are they still trying to persuade him to come back?

{Ed001's Note - last I heard they were going to table an offer to try and persuade him to join, even knowing he is not keen. I wouldn't hold my breath though, he wants Madrid and they are looking to do what it takes to make a deal go through.}

06 Jul 2016 19:22:06
I am aware of the fact as I was in Carrington daily at that time. Once he didn't appoint the agent Fergie wanted him to he was never going to be kept. I'm sure the eds would say that is true.

{Ed001's Note - correct

06 Jul 2016 19:25:09
Thanks for the reply Ed. would you know if MU have a back up option?

{Ed001's Note - not off the top of my head, but clubs very rarely put their eggs in one basket, so I would assume there is one

06 Jul 2016 19:32:21
Ed001 why are United bothering to try and get him if he doesn't want to come here at all? Why would they waste their time?

{Ed001's Note - because Jose desperately wants him.}

06 Jul 2016 19:39:33
Ken
And as 02 told us he was going regardless of playing which is why he changed agents .
Fergy new it so he out.

06 Jul 2016 19:40:45
Ed if they throw silly money at him, do you think there could be a chance?

{Ed001's Note - yes. I think it more depends on what happens with Madrid.}

06 Jul 2016 19:49:03
Well it's not my money so I couldn't give a monkeys if they pay him 500k a week but he would be a great addition once his head and heart were into it!

06 Jul 2016 19:49:16
Thanks ed.
I've spoken to the lad quite a lot a few years ago. He has a lot of affection for the club and the area and was very happy in Manchester for quite some time.

{Ed001's Note - no worries mate, he seems a very nice lad generally. He is very well liked from what I have heard. It is a shame the way things worked out, it would have been good to see him develop in the Prem.}

06 Jul 2016 19:57:24
Thanks Ed.

06 Jul 2016 20:04:41
Ken
Never mentioned that before during all the pogba talk .
So do you think that really he does want to come to united .

06 Jul 2016 20:07:59
He was part of a top youth side here. I hope he comes back its a real long shout but I'm still hopeful. Speaking to a friend if mine at the club its very apparent that Jose wants him badly and is pretty convinced he will Get him.
I'm trying to find out who the alternatives are but nobody seems to know or care as the word throughout the club is that Jose is talking like he has him.

06 Jul 2016 20:17:09
Ken
Have u any more rumours from your man at the club.

{Ed004's Note - You must be new here... You have to send in a load of different posts asking about specific random players such as Lindelof...}

06 Jul 2016 20:19:24
No jred I think Madrid is his first choice no doubt about that but he was really happy here. I spoke to him several times when he was at United. A charming kid at the time.
I think if Madrid don't can't or won't pay enough to juve and his agent then hee would not be unhappy to come back hear. That is only my opinion.
I don't say a lot of things jred but I make a decent money in the football world thankfully. I also have a full time job but hope to move full time into football when I retire from that job at 50 in 4 years time.

06 Jul 2016 20:27:40
Ok ken.

06 Jul 2016 20:28:09
You could maybe be an ed on the site.

06 Jul 2016 20:51:50
In 4 years I'll have the time required😁.

06 Jul 2016 20:26:04
No probs are we looking at lindelof.

{Ed004's Note - RTPP - always wanted to write that}

06 Jul 2016 21:27:04
Ed you sound like a proper ed now.

{Ed004's Note - That's a lifetime achievement accomplished there today}

06 Jul 2016 21:18:25
Yer u could be out of work 😂.

07 Jul 2016 08:27:38
Why was Woodward meeting Mendes?







 

 

 
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