17 May 2016 06:14:37
Just read that Glenn Hoddle recommended Koeman to be the next Man Utd manager.
This actually got me thinking about what we want and should be doing, both short term and long term. In all, I really am not really bothered which manager takes over as long as there is a change since LVG has under delivered this year. Yes as I have mentioned numerous times, he has helped "rebuild" the team last year but this year has fallen well short of deliverables and expectations (at least fans' expectations) .
Hence, whilst there seems to be quite a few people seemingly wanting Jose coming in, I also feel that he is at least better than LVG, I think Hoddle's suggestion might be worth looking into. Koeman is calm and collected as he deals with situations. He is quite a thinker and strategist as well. He gets the team to play exciting football. He does not just sit in the chair but is at the touchline box where needed. I think he is a much better Dutch version. Besides, he does not make arrogant remarks and handles the press pretty well. I would say he is a likeable character with some traits of a manager who is capable of handling big clubs. He is also keen to work with younger team as he believes in pace but will work with a few key seniors. That would actually suit us.
Again, I am not vouching for Jose or Koeman rather stepping back to look at the options more critically. Jose is hot blooded and gets people to do "his way or the highway" whereas I think Koeman motivates and can be firm in some ways. Jose is as arrogant as LVG but Koeman is humble and confident. More importantly, I feel Jose is very short term to bring us back but Koeman should be able to bring us back as well but also not losing long term objectives. I would say in 3-5 years, Koeman could fine tune our team to be back strong and yet still with reasonably young team. Also I am sure SAF will be able to add inputs where necessary.
I thought this is a good analysis for the selection of manager option but would like to hear what you guys think? We cannot afford to fail again and Jose comes with some potential risk given his history, especially when pressure builds up. Hope he would take it out on our physician if that happens lol.
Anyway, would like to hear your opinions, both Eds and fellow posters. Many thanks.
17 May 2016 06:24:16
It has to be said he has done an amazing job with Saints especially how decimated his team gets on a yearly basis. Arguably done as good a job as Poch last yr.
It's hard not to like the guy as he does conduct himself very well.
Love the idea of him for the long term but think Barcelona may have similar thoughts personally about him and just given the influx of big manager names next yr I think maybe we need the instant pound for pound shot in the arm Mourinho offers.
Mourinho for 3 yrs then Koeman would be awesome.
17 May 2016 06:31:59
It seems people forget that our manager of 26 years, a very successful manager, was, as you put it, "hot blooded and got people to do his way or the highway. SAF was also arrogant.
I like what I have seen of Koeman but it is yet another risk at a time we can't afford one. Add two more years of not challenging for the league and we are heading the same path as we did in the 70's and 80's, the same path as Liverpool 1990 or Arsenal from 2004, it becomes harder each year. Now is not the time for another experiment.
We should be taking Jose on now and preparing a plan for his replacement in 3 years. No more excuses, time for the top manager.
17 May 2016 06:55:13
Totally agree red man if we don't act appropriately this summer we will slip into the football wilderness just like Liverpool or Milan.
17 May 2016 06:59:29
Fergie was rainbows and smiles redman.
17 May 2016 07:02:52
I don't think koeman would be a risk. He's done a better job than poch at Southampton a better points return than anyone bar ranieri from January onwards. He's destined to manage a so called bigger club. Hopefully he is considered.
17 May 2016 07:20:35
I think Koeman has a "nasty" side. The way he threatened to send Mane to the stands for the rest of the season if he didn't drop his campaign to join MU didn't sit well with me and reminded me the LVG/ Valdes affair and slightly of his treatment of de Gea.
I know that there were discipline issues over Mane, but there are better man management techniques.
Koeman? I see and admit his qualities, but not for me thank you.
17 May 2016 07:56:49
DW I see where you are coming from.
But do you remember SAF with our dear Looney?
I agree that players these days can be attracted by outside offers but it is also the manager's responsibility to managed them so it does not affect the team. That way, the player does not get ahead of himself? Just my thoughts.
17 May 2016 08:12:38
Red, I see where you are coming from as well. With SAF there always seemed to be a way back even for "Looney", with LVG and Koeman it somehow seems less open to reconciliation at the time the discipline is administered. Certainly for Valdes there never seemed to be way back.
17 May 2016 09:31:21
Clearly Mourinho is the only man for the job. No other candidates are suitable, I don't see what we are even discussing it. It's complete nonsense, it has to be Mourinho, Mourinho, Mourinho.
17 May 2016 10:06:57
I think there are a lot of good candidates to take the club forward the United way, but the catch is that they should all be considered post a sustained period at the top end of the table. We need the steroid dose right now that just shoots us straight to the top. There's Allegri, Koeman, Pochhetino, Simeone amongst a few others. But none of them would, in my opinion, have the ego or the character required to be a United manager at this point in time. This is a period which demands a winner, a character. The best option would have been Ancelotti but he is gone. So who's the best available even if its 3 years. Jose.
And who is to say he may not be here for a few more years given that he has always craved for the United job.
I say give it to Mourinho and the club will just look upwards from there on.
We just can't afford another Moyes disaster right now.
17 May 2016 10:09:42
We can't again risk a manager. We need a guaranteed success. Mourinho has won at the highest level in multiple Leagues, but most importantly in this wonderful League of ours.
17 May 2016 11:14:27
Great points y'll and thanks. At least I know that a majority of us agree that it has to be Jose. Yes, perhaps if Jose can take us beyond 3 yrs and maintain as either the champions or even get a triple. that would be great for us and him.
It will also gives us time to look around and spot a strong successor.
More importantly hopefully the owners and EW are clear of the strategy. I am happy that EW has done well to get us to where our financial is but I think he needs to really open his ears and eyes to other than what is being discussed between him and LVG. He could possibly have been conned by LVG and also EW could be covering his backside.
Whatever the case may be, I think I am quite comforted that what we have discussed should already be clear to EW and the board. Decision time (likely after the Cup final) .
May or may not stay up to watch the game. It starts at 3am here in Asia! .
See you all.
17 May 2016 11:17:41
There's no guarantees in sport, Fresh. This talk about Mourinho being 'a guaranteed success' is rubbish. Have we forgotten how he left his last job? Surely Leicester winning the league this year should show that there are no guarantees.
17 May 2016 12:03:23
Stevie, now you're being silly. It has to be Mourinho, nobody else. I can't understand why people can't grasp that.
17 May 2016 14:35:08
Mourhino for me as well if someone is counting.
Is there really an alternative?
17 May 2016 14:53:04
Mourinho has to be first choice. But one thing i really liked about koeman is that can you name any of his signings that have flopped?
Pelle, mane, tadic, Bertrand, van dijk, cedric, clasie, forster, Romeu, long. The only one i say who hasn't lived up to expectations is austin, but that's because he's not playing so much.
Thoughts?