26 Oct 2015 20:00:05
I cannot believe we did not throw the kitchen sink at City. As the home team who are supposedly chasing the title and the opponent looking messy at the back whilst missing their most dangerous players, why on gods earth are we happy to drift laboriously around the field? Before anyone bangs on about tactics this and tactics that just keep your lips closed and save yourself the embarrassment. There is no will to win whatsoever and it's getting beyond shameful.
At what point are we all just going to throw our hands up on the air and say 'we are sick of this'. Come on lads are we really satisfied with these types of performances? I see some trying to find the positives but this has been going on for far too long now and scraping the barrel to find a little piece of gratification is downright sad. I hate watching United at the moment, in fact it outright bores me and I am losing my passion for the club with every passing week.
"Losing his passion" he says, what type of fan is he? Call me a glory hunter or a spoilt brat but how can we be expected to be passionate towards a club that shows no passion for itself, for its values and beliefs? It's bewildering that folk can accept this and even more so that some are happy to accept it. First and foremost I am a fan of football and have been my entire life. I have seen some great teams, exciting games and excellent football. I have seen poor performances, bad games and cumbersome displays. I am happy to take the bad with the good but I cannot take the bad with the boring and the more boring.
I never thought I'd say this but Manchester United who for many years were the pioneers of the modern day game have become an embarrassment. We are a big fat borefest. It's such a sad state of affairs.
26 Oct 2015 20:16:31
Keep our lips closed and save ourselves the embarrassment? No much point replying to you then mate, sorry.
26 Oct 2015 20:17:42
Actually, I wouldn't care what was happening on the pitch, my passion would still be exactly the same. The club needs the fans passion through the good times and the bad times, how we have been spoilt.
26 Oct 2015 20:55:45
As an Everton fan, I watched us fall from the top of the mountain many years ago and never climb back up apart from getting 4th a few years back. At least you're still near the peak so look at it that way. you're not Fergie united now, football has changed. you have one shaky game against city (best team in the league atm) and you've thrown your toys out the pram. Manchester United are in a brilliant position. Don't know how some fans of top clubs would survive at a club without great financial power.
26 Oct 2015 21:02:34
Of what you have said in the 4 paragraphs above, I 100% agree with the first 2 apart from the last line. I think your bang on there and i don't normally like your posts.
When is the point going to come when the penny drops in most peoples eyes that these tactics are slow and boring and a change is needed.
But paragraph 3 and 4 and the last line of 2 is a load of twaddle. Ill never lose the passion for this club, never.
If you don't want to watch dont, it may get bad before it gets better but ill stay watching through it all, waiting for the magic to return. Knowing 1 day it will.
26 Oct 2015 21:37:33
How would you have coped with sexton? We'd have to hide your shoelaces.
27 Oct 2015 00:13:40
If you watch martial you've got to get some bit excited he is going to be top drawer, and the boy is so calm, if Memphis comes good next year and we get someone like griezmann we will have one exciting front line.
Patients and we should be back up there soon at the top.
27 Oct 2015 01:31:10
no point having top 2 up front if u can't supply them or having hindrances in there way namely being? a player at the mo who slows every thing down and loads more and couldn't hit a 10 yard pass.
27 Oct 2015 06:27:15
Mort
I think some posters are simply spoilt, I supported the club through relegation and the Sexton era which was far far far worse than this. On Sunday we matched the title favourites having recovered some strength after the debacle of the shocking transition from SAF. We are playing Champions League football with the present manager having earned that qualification. Could the quality of football be better, yes, should Rooney be up front, no, however we are evolving and it seems the "we want it all right now" attitude, so prevalent in society, has got a grip of some posters.
Lastly at the moment Manchester United are not an embarrassment, however we are work in progress.
27 Oct 2015 07:51:01
This isn't about being spoilt. It's about having the ingredients to make something special and we keep messing it up.
Spoilt would be expecting too much from this group of players and manager. However a lot of them are performing well below their ability and the tactics/ethos are counter what the club stands for.
For those of you saying we have been spoilt that would only be the case if we had the Sunderland squad and were expecting them to play like a typical Utd team. Instead it's the opposite so we are complaining about the waste of talent and opportunity in most cases. I certainly am.
Football seems to be getting more boring the bigger it gets, it should be the other way around. I have no trouble supporting the team, but I have trouble enjoying it.
27 Oct 2015 08:03:10
Red man,
Hallelujah, some sense. Agree agree agree.
27 Oct 2015 09:27:23
So what you are saying Beast is that we have all the players to do well but not doing it? Why then did you complain all summer we didn't sign the players you wanted?
27 Oct 2015 09:38:32
No GDS - you are jumping to extremes again mate. We have glaring weaknesses in the squad, but several players should be performing better. When something doesn't work we seem to keep trying the same thing, there is no evolution during the game. Funnily enough the same is happening with Chelsea, the key difference is that we have taken he few chances we create more often than not. We could very easily be in the same position as them.
I complained that we didn't sign a CB. In turn I have praised Blind to the hilt and he is my pick so far this season as the most surprising performer. I also complained that we were making Rooney the figure head of attack, which is something I did get right.
Lets just be grateful DDG stayed, the season would look very different to those of you saying we are doing well league wise. Only one loss away from 6th place is hardly the stuff dream are made of.
27 Oct 2015 09:50:38
It is about realising we don't have a God given right to be top and play glory football all the time. It needs a reality check that we are changing and evolving and it takes time. There has long been an arrogance on this page that has people thinking we should always top of the food chain when actually we got ourselves into a mess by poor planning and managerial selection. A little realism wouldn't go amiss, actually understand that you build momentum by being hard to beat. There is no magic wand or switch that turns football to the fantasy variety and stamping your feet saying you are going to be a lesser supporter because the football isn't our 2008 variety is like a kid not getting the bike they wanted for Christmas and sulking.
27 Oct 2015 10:56:37
Beast,
One defeat away from 6th is one way of looking at it, another way of looking at it is one victory away from 1st. Not saying you are pessimistic or anything but see the difference between them two statements? Both true, but both paint a very different picture.
So we COULD be in the same position as Chelsea, but we aren't because we put our chances away, we also COULD be in the same position as Villa if we didn't put any chances away all season, and my Uncle COULD be my auntie if he didn't have a penis.
I prefer to look at what is happening rather than what could have happened, maybe that is just me.