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01 Oct 2015 16:55:32
Personally I think the 2 players that have consistently underachieved so far this season are Rooney and depay. I think there are some mitigating circumstances for depay whereby he is young new to the epl just moved country etc so I have a larger degree of tolerance for depay.

I would play young left and depay more central where he started the season and drop Rooney or even play young and Pereira and leave both depay and Rooney on the bench v arsenal. I don't think it will happen but IMO that's what needs to happen

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01 Oct 2015 17:09:08
I think people are being a little harsh on Depay to be honest, in fact very harsh, he has had a few bad games but even then he has always been involved in some way. He gives the ball away a fair amount but he is always looking to go past his man or be positive, he stretches the defence with his pace and there are signs him and Martial could quickly grow into a great partnership.

I think we have a habit of just slagging young players off and putting too much pressure on them. Last night Martial lost the ball at one point and I heard the crowd making a few noises, we have to get behind the young players, I think Depay is a year too early but will be class, some of the things he does even in poor performances (that turn yesterday where he took out 2 players was world class) make you get off your seat and applaud.

Sorry Ken, I am aware your post isn't too negative on Depay as you have a 'larger degree of tolerance' but I have seen others really laying into him, we need to give him more a chance, its October in his first season in England and he has done a few good things, he hasn't been amazing but I am so far satisfied with what I have seen.

01 Oct 2015 17:24:11
I agree with you GDS2. I too think Memphis will come good. I don't think he comes across at all as though he already thinks he's Ronaldo (as some posters have claimed). He's positive, takes the game to the opponent and if it doesn't work he tries again. It keeps defenders on their toes and ensures they don't get an easy game. Running at defenders also frees up space for other players to move into which we are seeing more of (Martial is also helping with this). He will improve his decision making over time and become a gifted player for us. It looks to me like he has the right attitude.

01 Oct 2015 17:25:13
We have 3 of the most exciting talents in Europe, we just need to allow them to show their talent. Yes Depay was losing the ball trying to be expressive, but I was more impressed both by his and Pereira's work rate in defence - I remember late on in the game Pereira tracking back and winning the ball by the corner flag. This commitment tells me more about these players than them making mistakes going forward.

01 Oct 2015 17:28:53
The only problem with Depay is that the only way he'll improve is with experience, so we need to play him or loan him out and there's no way that's happening. It's his decision making that really let's him down, and it's been highlighted even more since martial has been here as his decision making is brilliant for such a young lad.
I'm happy for Depay to keep playing as it will be beneficial in the long run, and young won't be short of game time with shaw being out for most of the season.

01 Oct 2015 17:59:06
Depay makes his share of mistakes going forward, but better that he makes aggressive mistakes than fearful ones. It is easier to simplify a player's game than to expand it. Memphis has done an excellent job tracking back. which has been a growth in his game thus far.

01 Oct 2015 18:00:36
I was at the game last night and although it wasn't working out for him, I commented to my mate how i was impressed Depay kept trying and didn't go missing.

He didn't do a lot wrong and was always a threat. If his finishing had been a bit better and not straight at the goalie he would have had a hat trick.

On another day all three attempts would have missed the keeper and gone in.

I think we should be very pleased with his start at Man Utd.

On a different note, i loved watching Bastian last night. I've not seen a Utd player running the midfield like that since Scholes

01 Oct 2015 18:08:52
Depay has taken over from ADM, and ADM took over from Nani. You could put anyone of them on the pitch and we would be seeing the same thing. All three of them are guilty of the same mistakes. They can be breathtakingly exciting and attack at pace, but the vast majority of the time they give the ball away and their simple passing is shocking. You can cope with Depay if you don't have another passenger up top, but we do in Rooney unfortunately, which means we have double the chance of the ball being lost when they have it - at least Depay runs at players.

Yes Depay is young, but so is Martial. Depay needs to realise he isn't playing in Holland and that it's a team game.

01 Oct 2015 19:04:11
I agree with most of those replies. As you say gds i'm not slating him at all and believe he will develop and improve dramatically over next 18 months, one of things fergie excelled at was taking the youth out of the firing line so to speak when required so that their confidence wasn't knocked badly.

I agree with beast in as much as we can't afford 2 of our front 4 misfiring and at 19 we can't expect martial to maintain his current level of excellence without a rest or a dip in form. The international break will also provide little break for our players as just about all our 1st 11 will play both mathes for their countries and some big crunch games too let's hope they all come back with a clean bill of health.

01 Oct 2015 20:07:05
I don't understand all the Depay knocking. I said before a ball was kicked that he'll need at least a season to settle. Yet people are writing him off.
The guy is 20 years old, give him a chance.

01 Oct 2015 20:37:52
He does look a little lost right now; perhaps he's over thinking it and needs to play his natural game. Meh has once but isn't using it. I'd love to see him taking his man on with purpose

01 Oct 2015 20:39:36
Sorry, just seen the suggestion about loaning out Depay. Really? Boys me people can be fickle, give the kid a chance

01 Oct 2015 20:42:19
Beast that's harsh to be fair. if ronaldo was in this team now doing what he was doing at the start people would be knocking him. I think it's unfair to expect too much from him and it's coupled by the fact that martial has been so good.

But we have to keep reminding ourselves that they are just young men who have come in to arguably the fastest league in the world. Once he can curb his enthusiasm and learn when to take on his man, shoot or pass the ball he is going to be miles better.

When Ronaldo first came he did so many things that were so frustrating but he had some quality players at that end of the pitch.

As long as we get behind depay he will only improve, if frustration kicks in and there is moans, groans, it will only dampen his confidence, and that is not good.

01 Oct 2015 21:22:27
Guys please stop talking abut Ronaldo and Depay in the same sentence lol.

Depay will never be Ronaldo and I recommend watching Ronaldo in his early days and what he could do with the ball and his speed and control whilst running with the ball was scary.

Depay is Pacey winger who is quite one dimensional at the moment and nothing close to Ronaldo.

Martial at 19 has that something special about him and you get the sense this guy can be something unbelievable.

Players like Ronaldo come around once every 20 to 30 years.

01 Oct 2015 21:33:41
GDS2

Can you honestly say he has done okay for you so far as that is an incredible statement.

Actually is there anything any player, the manager or the team does that is not good enough in you view as you seem to have some standard for what is acceptable.

Ken

I agree he has been very underwhelming and we have a host of other players who are in the PL for the first time and they seem to put in a lot better performances.

I would give wilson a run of 9 games and see what he is capable of doing if people are promoting patience.

01 Oct 2015 21:34:30
GCU we only use to it to compare the fact that he is a young very talented winger, the last time one was lauded so much was ronaldo. Ronaldo is a phenom, no one can compare in terms of ability, goals etc. But back then nobody knew what he was going to become much like depay.

But for all is pace and skill when he was young he was incredibly frustrating too just like depay is right now but we were patient and we're lucky to have an array of top class seasoned pros around him. Depay unfortunately has not got the same class around him and I wish people would get off his back cause it's incredibly unfair.

01 Oct 2015 22:16:27
angel

Ronaldo would turn you over and go on the outside or inside and can shoot and pass with both feet. Depay is very right footed and everyone in the stadium knows he is going to come inside even though on many occasions the better play is to go down the flank and make a cross for incoming players but he always takes the inside option, which is infuriating and a host of our decent build up play breaks down because off him just being selfish.

I don't agree, he is surrounded by good players mate. Dropping him might do him more good than keeping playing him.

Fans going berserk on social media last night about how poor he was and now adays these gusy are so switched into all this social media stuff that they hear and read this stuff.

Its a team game mate and young will contribute more than repays doing at the moment.

01 Oct 2015 23:08:30
I'm not trying to compare them as players. More as individuals and the pressure that seems to be on their shoulders.

Fair enough dropping him might help, I don't mind that at all, what gets me is that people seem to be really on his case where people should really be more patient, it's extremely annoying.

The quality of player that surrounded Rooney was much higher than the quality that surrounds depay, absolutely, no doubt. That UTD team was much further ahead than this one.

Again I am not arguing that he shouldn't be dropped, I'm saying people should lay off him that's it.

02 Oct 2015 08:25:38
GCU the team Ronaldo joined was a whole lot better then this one. With a young Rooney covering his own and Ronaldos defensive duties. Ronaldo never had to get back.

Also i seen somewhere beast wrote that we could get on with Depay taking awhile to mature on the field if we didn't have any other passengers in attack, but Rooney is in there doing nothing. and if youve 2 players out of your attacking 4 not doing a whole lot its going to show a lot more.

Ronaldo had a 'world beating' Rooney(probably the best young player in the world at the time) Depay has the 'i forgot how to play football' Rooney and it makes a huge difference







 

 

 
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