18 Sep 2015 20:22:36
I'll start a new thread as replies to mine are far down.
I'll start with you all bash JMB for his sarcy comments, yet I see plenty of comments from plenty of posters slating anyone else opinion. But contradictory. JMB, beast, Shan, Nomid etc like myself have certain issues with the way the money has been spent over 3 windows. Our views aren't invalid, they may not match yours but they're our opinions.
I personally think a lot of you are deluding yourselves if you think we are significantly better than we were 12 months ago. Yes we improved our midfield, and Darmain at right back looks a fantastic deal. But can any of you realistically tell me you think we can win the league or CL with Smalling, Jones, McNair and Rojo as your CB? Smalling is developing into a great player, like I have though he would for some time. Improving that defence does not have to be a world class CB, doesn't have to be Ramos etc. Ashley Williams is better than any we have, Ryan Shawcross is better than what we have bar Smalling. Garay, Howedes, Miranda are all other option at a resonable fee that would improve us.
It's not harsh to say Rojo hasn't filled me with confidence. There's a reason why a cm is taking his place in the side. As for someone saying he's used to playing in defence, yes as a LB, not a CB. He's doing fairly well there but he's not the answer.
As for attack, last season we struggled to score goals. It was our downfall. Wayne Rooneys a year older, and is declining. He's only hit 20 goals twice in 11 years with us. Rvp and Chic were let go. In their place we have a withering Rooney, james Wilson who gets no game time and won't net 20 plus goals, and Martial, another unproven, uncapped until last week, very raw player who will need time. Where are the goals coming from?
People sound as if what I'm saying is madness, I should be locked in a padded room. I think it's glaringly obvious to the rest of the world bar a few here with their tinted specs on. Maybe we did try for Lacazette although I don't think we did. I could name forwards who I think could contribute goals to us. Pedro, berahino, Benteke, lewandowski, lacazette, son, greizzman, aubameyang, zlatan, cavani, etc are all players I think would have contributed more goals that what any of our players will score this season.
So I'll let the haters hate. But come the end of the season I'm pretty confident we will have fallen short again. And what will the answer be? Blow another £100m in the summer. If has to stop somewhere. At some point there weak links need addressing. About 15 players have come in since LVG too charge, and there's still big holes through the spine of the side. It's not good enough. Don't settle for mediocre football. Before long we'll be like Liverpool
18 Sep 2015 20:43:47
Chill out man, watch the rugby x
18 Sep 2015 20:56:18
Whatever you have said most people already know.
Everybody knows we need CBs, everybody knows we need forwards. Its not rocket science.
After writing all this you have not suggested a solution to all these immeasurable problems that we have.
What do you suggest we should do now?
18 Sep 2015 21:02:25
Stand, I'm not happy with many things but I try to be balanced and take each issue on its merits. The issue is that JMB is unfailingly negative and unflinching in his narrow views. I find Beast a little repetitive: however he is prepared to consider other views. People are becoming entrenched, there is no black or white here, each game brings a new dynamic and views change accordingly. Too many posters are obsessed with being proved right but everyone needs to chill out and remember we are here to discuss and debate and hopefully have a laugh. And as for those of you predicting the future, can you let me have tomorrow's lottery numbers please?
18 Sep 2015 21:08:06
stand united
so now lacazette is a world class striker ?
one good season and world class.
hasnt scored this season in 7hrs and 20 minutes of football .
has said himself he is worried about his goal drought.
but he would of scored a bag full for united.
maybe united took martial over lacazette?
18 Sep 2015 21:10:09
It sounds like you really are looking forward to this day when we come up short so you can say I told you. This squad is better than the one last season. RvP was finished, and on the kind of wages he was on, am glad he left. Chicha had one great season. Then he just couldn't hack it. I would much rather have players that an not sure how well they could turn out than have players that I am absolutely sure are crap.
18 Sep 2015 21:21:40
"I personally think a lot of you are deluding yourselves if you think we are significantly better than we were 12 months ago."
We're around 5 points better than last season aren't we?
Second best defence in the league, I've said it before you don't need "big name" centre backs to have the best defence you need intelligent capable players with good technical ability, and with carrick/bastian and morgan ahead of them they'll have loads of protection.
Midfield is best it's been for years.
Yes we've lost falcao rvp and chicha up top but how much did they contribute last season? We have two of the best young attacking players in the world, if they find their feet and Wayne gets some form we will be firing them in.
I'll put my neck on the line and say we will finish above fourth this season, no one benefits from constant moaning about players we didn't sign and how we're going to turn into liverpool, it's laughable.
I've actually enjoyed watching us play a few times this season, which I haven't been able to say much over the last two years, we are improving without a doubt, get behind your team for god sake.
18 Sep 2015 21:25:59
some people seem to think that players for other teams never have a bad game , play great and score ever game
18 Sep 2015 21:33:50
Stand mate , this is a prime example of why people moan about some negative posters. We all can see the team's short comings. We all know we need a top quality CB , and would love a top top striker.
I can only speak for myself , but I respond to posts like this because they have become so repetitive and monotonous. The points you make above are valid in many ways. But it seems to me like you posted exactly the same thing earlier this afternoon. Unfortunately for you , only JMB seemed to agree with your views , and even then it was just a sarcy response. ( That is not me having another go at JMB either because I can be as sarcastic as anyone!)
So what do you do when no one agrees with you? Answer - start a new thread saying exactly the same thing as earlier , only worded differently. And just add a few critical words aimed at those who didn't agree with your first post.
It's not just you Stand , we all do it to some extent , but posting the same thing over and over again , day after day doesn't gain anything. It just boring reading the same posts all the time , even more so when they are just negative and commit lend themselves to positive , or constructive , discussion.
I sometimes think some posters would be better off emailing the Samaritans rather than posting on here.
18 Sep 2015 21:41:39
Mumbai exactly . The point is we should be in a position where we're saying our defence isn't good enough our attack isn't good enough after spending a quarter of a billion. What part of that is hard to understand?
As for saying I want us to lose, pathetic view. I would love to win the league and be proven wrong. Just my opinion is it won't happen. Time will tell. I also never said lacazette was world class
18 Sep 2015 22:07:57
Stand,
Your only looking at a tiny proportion of the situation. You say we have spent 250m but without any understanding or consideration for what we have actually done.
I won't go into net spend as the actual money means very little. We have had a complete squad overhaul, only 6 players remain from the 30 man squad of three years ago.
The sheer number of players moved on and brought in is where this spending has come from.
Unfortuantely signing players isn't as simple as playing football manager, its not like popping down to tescos and buying them off the shelf. And signing the biggest names amd the best players is always difficult. Look at Real Madrid this summer, they wanted DDG and were unable to get him. Even when it seemed he was ripe for the picking.
Chelsea didn't manage to sign the players they really wanted. But Man City did. Some you win some you don't.
We have managed to bring in some very good players, some very talented prospects and some solid squad players. Schweinsteiger has been one of the best midfielders of his generation, he may be past his very best but is still a top player with top experience to pass on. Schneiderlin has been one of the best and most consistent midfielders in the Premier league these last few years.
Darmian has been a revolation to anyone who hasn't been a regular watcher of Seria A.
Blind has very rarely let us down and has been solid whether he has been asked to play in midfield or defence.
In Depay and Martial we have two of the best young players in world football.
Shaw also fits into that catagory and up until his injury was one of our best players this season.
Herrera has been fantastic whenever he has played, the only issue with him is he hasn't been played enough.
These are all new players, and they all need time to settle.
Yes we still need to improve our defence, it lacks that world class quality that wins out in the biggest games, but no world class players have beem available. And the players we have currently though lacking that quality have managed the best best defensive record over the last 12 months.
Yes we could do with a world class striker, but there are very few of them available, so we signed a potentially world class striker in Martial. With Rooney still at the club and Martial needing game time to reach his potential then what would you do? Sign another world class player and block Martial? Bring in a decent striker amd take game time away for a player no better than Martial and with less potential?
Yes our attack has lacked something, but with players such as Rooney, Mata, Young, Depay and Martial there are goals there if we can get the balance right.
This squad isn't complete and there isn't a manager who could have done significantly better given the circumstances.
I know many of us have only ever known success and good football, but our club is going though a massive transition and we will have to ride it out. Whinging and moaning that the club didn't sign 24 new players in the summer isn't going the change everything. And coming out amd saying I told you so after every poor result just makes you look childish and immature.
18 Sep 2015 22:14:44
Exactly there opinions mate but it's how they are put which gets my goat up, let's take your post for example here further down the page.
You claim anyone not agreeing with your point is burying their head in the sand or are deluded, brilliant post that, so we done then yes?
U have already set out the notion that if anyone disagrees with you they are wrong and chossing not to see the 'light' what's the point in debating then!
Why start a thread then? Well let's be honest we know why.
You could of continued on your thread, people were still replying but u thought you would start a new one this time moaning bout summit else as well.
Okay, so let me start to try and actually debate with you and give u my opinions on yours.
1/ "if anyone thinks we have improved from last year is wrong BUT we have improved defence and CM".?
UM. Well that's improvement isn't it, yes?
Williams and Shawcross? Really? That will stop us turning into Liverpool will it?
The mind boggles it really does. Rojo is not the answer but apparently Shawcross is!
2/ haven't u just named a load of strikers? Which ones moved by the way?
Son, more of a creative player than a prolific goal getter.
This is backed up with the fact he has an average goals record of 10 or under a season! Blinking great improvement that on Rooney that!
Or do u mean Benteke who has 44 in 94 games which include a few hatricks.
Maybe we could of gone out and blasted £25m on berahinho after all he has 19 in 73.
Pedro, me personally I don't rate him but he maybe would of added more goals from the right, but more than Mata? That's up for debate I guess.
3/ So "we will fall short this season" then what? We will go out and blow another £100m u say?
So what's your answer then? Blow a fourtune a year earlier, crikey it's easy ain't it?
I personally (like I have said) would of liked a bit more depth in certain area's.
Striker for one for sure, but we did sign a striker if u recall, but as jred said it wasn't your choice so let's forget him and disregard him, I mean what's he going to do for us?
We have obviously took the view that Adnan and Wilson need proper game time but they are not yet ready to get as many games as they would like here, so Adnan has gone out to Dortmund, and Wilson to the championship.
They will get good game time there at good clubs, but that does only leave us with Rooney, Martial, Depay and Fellani(if needed) who can go there.
Not great and maybe not enough to mount a serious challenge with city going on there form so far.
So to summarise, you wanted us to go out and along with our many midfield signings and sign a few more ready made strikers and defenders just to boot.
So after we get them who do u replace then?
Our captain with Benteke or Son?
Or is your plan to rotate them thus goals will be shorter than the whopping 12 average these these world-class players will get us.
Which CB do u replace?
Smalling who u have always said will come good and is proving that or our other CB that has 2 motm's in 5 league games (one against Benteke I'll add).
But hey Williams for 15/20m or Shawcross for 15m would of been better for u, your choice I guess.
Garay, I'll give u, he seemed a very good defender from what I've seen, obviously not as much as u but I do think he would of been a decent buy imo, where did he end up? Still at Zenit? Barca? Madrid? Bayern?
No I don't think this year we will win the league, but imo we have improved some key area's RB, CM and LW.
Next window or the summer after our 5 New players(4 of which start in the 11) will have hopefully settled and then with a bit of tuning in other area's we can go out and get that top draw CB and ST u desperatly want to have.
Or this season we could of gone out bought 7/8 New first team players, seen which ones took to the club then gone out and bought more players to take the place of the ones which didn't work out.
And somehow this will not make us like Liverpool?
A club that signed another LB,2 New ST,ACM and a CM this summer to add to a RB they needed too.
To which they then had to loan out a ACM and ST, sell another ST, and pay Athletico to take back a RB, all or which were signed last summer. And sell a promising young player for other reasons.
See I think if we do what u suggest that will make us exactly like Liverpool, a club constantly in transition signing at least half a dozen first team players each season and by the time one really kicks on they as a club have not and they lose them to bigger clubs.
That's my OPINION though! I hope that doesn't upset u this time.
U can disagree with me if u want, the only difference is I won't call u deluded or insinuate u having your head in the sand for doing so.
Sorry for the rant but it's all getting a bit tedious today.
Thank God we have a game to look forward to Sunday.
18 Sep 2015 22:37:02
Ive been sarcy towards maze because he takes every opportunity and even creates opportunities to slate just about everything about the management and in particular ĺvg.
Slating him for lying to the press is just laughable and if you can't see the irony in that coming form a bloke with a minimum of 3 names you must be blind. That on top of his arrogant and outrageous statements come across as attention seeking.
Your right every supporter has their own opinion
Mine is that I am not at all alarmed and nor can I see any hugely convincing argument to have kept any of the players we let go / sold/ loaned out since lvg took over.
I am very happy with the new signings . Like everybody else I would have liked another Centre forward and cb.
Our play is improving imo. I am a realist and i have obviously got a higher tolerance and more patience than you have.
Lacazette and kane have not scored this season. Pedro not done much. Muller and lewindoski didn't scre 30 league goals between them last season.
Be patient is what I'm saying this is a new team with some players with huge potential ddg shaw smalling morgan darmian depay rojo martial all under 25 3 of them under 21. They will all improve I am confident that we are building what will become a very formidable squad.
Imo there is no point in coming on here just to vent anger and frustration especially when none of us have a clue what really goes on with regards to tranfers and dressing rooms etc. Its not fun to read its not the way supporters should be like imo. Its not going to be all great all the time at any club that's the nature of football stop beinga bunch ofdrama Queens and get on with supporting the team andclub not finding a way to criticise everybody at every given opportunity.
After Christmas will be the time to have a reasonably balanced view on whether we are improving significantly enough and if we have had a good transfer window imo.
PS Beast is a good poster too but for me too many of his good posts are lost or discredit by his anti lvg rants which are often repetitive and at times totally unreasonable imo.
We are all guilty of double standards at times so when we are called out on them we should be prepared to admit it.
Sorry for the long post
Ken
18 Sep 2015 22:48:22
ctr
some post that pal
18 Sep 2015 23:12:13
1) I've never mentioned Kane. I don't rate him. I was one who wasn't happy to pay the big fee for a one season wonder. If he does it consistently fair enough
2) I never said we need world class players. Ashley Williams is not world class but he's a very good CB who would get into any side in the league and attainable at a good price. Also good on the ball which fits our system
3) I have never said we should of signed 11/12 players this window. My problem is over the 3 windows there's still glaring deficiencies in the side
4) people like to quote the number of goals scored by said striker, but having watched martial play 90 mins , having known nothing about him, we have signed one of the best young players in the world. Funny I never saw anyone mentioning him before
5) the style of football is poor. Di Maria is a world class player and was used poorly. His form was down to being misused as much as anything else.
6) Would I take Benteke over Rooney? In a heartbeat. There's no room for sentiment in footballs. He's been good for us over the years. Now he's declining rapidly and needs replacing
7) judging the points on the first 5 games doesn't automatically mean we're better than we were last year. We may have had better results but the teams not much stronger IMO. Yes the midfield is better without doubt, but attack is much weaker without Di Maria, Rvp, etc.
When Fellaini starts as a striker and Blind as your CB , it's glaringly obvious were struggling. I will always support my side no matter what, but I won't sit here and pretend everything's rosey if I don't feel it is. I think we'll end up trophy less again. I truley hope I'm proved wrong and eat humble pie. I just don't see it.
19 Sep 2015 00:48:44
CTR, I loved the way halfway through your post, you said, 'so to summarise'. Then proceeded to write as much as you did before!
Nice summary, mate :)
19 Sep 2015 01:35:59
CTR,
Probably the best post I have seen on here in a long long time, summed up everything I was thinking, you should think about doing a podcast mate ;)
18 Sep 2015 22:09:56
12, 17, 33, 39, 42, 46
19 Sep 2015 05:52:06
Geez chill man. At the end of the day we are all UNITED.
Are we better than last year. Most definitely. We have a more balanced squad. Key word balanced.
How many of those strikers you mentioned were available or wanting to move? Probably Only the great Zlatan and he is the only one who you could almost guarantee to score 20 for the season.
Don't go to 250 million please. I'll again repeat, we bought players and NOT a team. Please give players the time to gel to become a team. We already look solid.
As for winning anything. We may not win the league only because city look prety good. The rest look like us if not poorer.
Antony Martial instilled more confidence in me in one and half game than adnan did over two seasons. So I understand what LVG saw. Wilson will get his chance.
Please enlighten me on what has Blind or Smalling done wrong which the Garays or the Otamendis or Ramos would have done better or differently.
I think we have a very good and balanced squad right now albeit a shy thin. And most imp we are under the perfect manager to guide us through this phase. I would bet the great SAF would have struggled if he had so many changes.
Please tell me that I didn't come out negative. It fills my eyes with tears when I get called out in the same line as JMB and Beast.
19 Sep 2015 09:35:58
Don't worry Shan, you will not be seen in the same light as JMB or myself. We would never see this squad as "balanced", one injury in defence and the question is do we move our CB (who is a CM) out there, move a winger out there, or play somebody that the manager doesn't rate or like and who also is mainly a CB. One injury to a miss-firing striker and we play Fellaini. We play Mata as a winger.
I agree wholeheartedly with Stand. Ultimately the manager has had more money and more time to implement his ideas than I believe is reasonable and I don't think we have progressed much at all. We know we will keep possession every game, but we also know we will do very little with it. The obvious problems of the team haven't been addressed short term, instead there are long term gambles and an injury or two away from disaster (remember how injury prone we have been over recent years, well our manager just ignored that).
Remember Moyes smashed Swansea in his first game in Swansea, he smashed Leverkusen in Leverkusen. LVG loses to Swansea and a worse PSV - progress? Every game is a lottery, we are not feared, team's relish playing us at the moment, that isn't progress.
Maybe the foundations being put in place are good ones, but we are guessing. The evidence on the pitch is that we are still a very long way from the finished article and still remarkably several players short. Next summer will be the same old excuses, (we need 4-5 players, then we need time to integrate and get them used to LVG's system).
I don't think any of use hand on heart would put their mortgage on us being in the top 3 this season. So where is the progress?
19 Sep 2015 09:52:26
Yeh sorry about that, I didn't realize it was so long, had a bit on my plate this month.
I have no problem with negative posters, it's what makes this site great. I just don't like the notion that the posters that disagree with them are deluded. I'm not that at all.
If people want to share their opinions great, but it does my head in when the thread starts with them telling me I'm deluded or I'm sticking my head in the sand if I disagree.
I'm not!
I just see a different view on things. Do I want Rooney replaced yes! But I would want him replaced with a certain upgrade not this year's hot name. Especially if there stats are not even as good.
I will refrain from going off again, and please I hope u did not take my post as a arsey one stand mate.
19 Sep 2015 10:31:34
Beast Moyes lost to Liverpool home and away, lost to Chelsea, lost to city. how have we played against those teams. Progress?
19 Sep 2015 10:42:16
CTR below you have posted saying "some of the statements on here are laughable" or something to that effect so isn't that just the same as saying someone is deluded or has their head in the sand? You are judging their opinions and comapring them to a joke, are you not? Why give someone else grief while putting yourself on a pedestal yet your ultimately stating the same thing? Everyone disagrees that's life no need to get all worked up about it.
Shan - Beast and I contribute more to this page than most so you would be in good company but you will never be the in the same boat as Beast and I as we have had these views of the teams shortcomings for a long time now and unlike fence sitters like yourself we don't allow a few good results to blur our vision to the going ons at the club the way some others do, which is fine as that is thier character at the end of the day and most certainly their prerogative.
I cannot stress enough my feelings in regards to the way the club is moving at the moment. I agree totally with SU. Results are hit and miss. The football is downright embarrassing and every other week there are off the pitch issues in the press. there's no point getting into it again as everyone here knows my views and that is we will not win anything under Louis Van Gaal.
19 Sep 2015 10:46:30
Beautiful post ctr. Big fan of that passion and heart.
The funny thing is guys, that behind the calls of delusion, head burying, negativity and rose tinteted specs - if you take ctr's and stands reply, when you combine them, what you're left with is a balanced argument and a fairly accurate representation of where Manchester United football club is at the moment.
Progress is being made, but it's difficult to quantify just how much. Some people are desperate to make it clear that it's not enough for them. And others are happy to be seeing the evidence of the work going in.
Peace
19 Sep 2015 10:59:11
Beast ,
Fergies first full season in charge we finished 2nd .
next season we finished 11th
Following season we finished 13th
Progress ?
19 Sep 2015 11:31:58
bilko - You are right Fergie should have spent his £250million better in his first 12 months in charge.
19 Sep 2015 11:46:34
Jmb ,
During that period Fergie brought in Steve Bruce , Viv Anderson , Brian McClair , Neil Webb , Mark Hughes , Paul Ince , Garry Palliater , Mike Phelan etc
19 Sep 2015 11:58:32
Chris, hope everything's taken a turn for the better, mate. Best wishes.
19 Sep 2015 12:07:29
CTR , I have crocodile skin mate, don't worry about that. No offence taken by me anytime on here. It's all banter and opinions and I love the site. I should also have worded what I said better, in that what I mean is in my opinion people are burying their head in the sand as I don't agree with your opinions. But I accept everyone's opinions are different and everyone's entitled to their own.
Overall I have to say I agree with Beast and JMB and am firmly in their boat, I think we have signed good players, and a couple with real potential. But we don't yet know if that potential will be realised, and I think after 3 windows we still have glaring weaknesses in the spine of the team which, in my opinion, will cost us again and again. I don't see us scoring enough goals to challenge this season. But as I said its my opinion and time will tell
19 Sep 2015 12:17:01
What's wrong with thinking a post is laughable, If it makes me laugh?
I put myself on a pedestal? I don't know about that mate, maybe a bit of the 'personality' of yours coming out there?
Oh by the way Shan unlucky in not becoming a fully fledged member of JMB's and Beast's gang by the way mate, it would seem JMB has black balled u this time.
The funny thing about your post is the last paragraph where u say mention mine and stands post about them being the same.
It is because I was not really disagreeing much with what he said, it's called a debate mate, one where after I took away the crap about words like delusional and head burying we both had the similar points.
He mentioned "if we think the team has improved that much we are wrong"
I said i think we have improved a lot more, results are hit and miss but what did you expect with 4 New starting players every game(5 if u included Shaw who didn't play much last season) after just 5 games.
He listed a load of strikers we should or could of got.
I pointed out they would of probably not of improved us (the ones available).
I backed that up with there goals average, if a player like Lewi, Benzema or Cavani was available I'm suprised no one picked them up, with Real, us, Arsenal, Chelsea etc looking for one.
What I thought was laughable was the fact he mentioned Shawcross and Williams as players that would of improved us, but Rojo wouldn't.
Rojo is a squad player, if we went out and signed one of those(which would of been for a sizable amount too), which one would take the places of our starting CB's or would they be squad players and we could of added them to likes of Rojo, Jones, Mcnair etc for the squad.
I don't watch much of the Russian league so I wouldn't know about Garay. From the limited games I have seen he would of been decent imo.
So I was not really disagreeing much with what he wanted just with the examples he was giving.
Some people are willing to give it a few months to see where we are and the improvement being made if any to judge properly, where as u seemingly want it all now.
Or it could be ure actual agenda is anti LVG, in which case that's your opinion and one we could debate about if ure willing to aim your posts a bit more in the direction of mature debatable threads and not try to ram them down our throats everyday with your half a dozen or so similar threads and numerous replies making it out anyone that does not agree with is not as creditable as u in some way, as I said if this is not right I apologize, which I also said down the page.
Maybe this new angle of u claiming to be hard done by and being attacked is one you now want to pursue a bit more?
19 Sep 2015 12:17:28
Ed Woodward should stop taking loan from Beast and Maze bank now. Probably then they will stop moaning about the 250 million. When was the last time you had thought anything positive, forget posting. I am certainly not a fence sitter. I will go out and say we finish second this season. Good football poor football. Whatever. I will watch every minute of it. And not moan as long as we are heading in the right direction which by the way WE ARE.
Hate moan cry. at the end of the day our choices don't matter to either lvg or Woodward. Lvg has a plan and we are just too naive not to understand. We have started from scratch. If anything it was Moyes who ruined it. Lvg is rectifying it. Flare will come later once we settle.
19 Sep 2015 13:31:17
CTR, to say that Ashley Williams would not be an improvement on Rojo, Jones , McNair etc is crazy
19 Sep 2015 15:28:04
Wow. I come on here and all hell has broken. Fact is, SU is talking sense and being realistic. Felaini in attack and Blind on cd is not progress.
Midfield and RB areas have improved.
But in attack we are seriously short of options. The fact is, great attackers will get you out of trouble when required. And we have no great attackers.
I disagree that we will finish any higher than 4th. In fact I think 4th will be a good position if we can achieve it.
Su wrote a load of valid points and each one of them was turned over and misquoted. He mentioned ashley Williams, and he'll definitely be an improvement on what we have.
He mentioned a load of strikers and we know a load of them were available at the right price but we sold three established names and bought a youngster!
Can anyone of the self proclaimed "positive" posters actually tell us where we will finish in the league? Or whether we'll win a trophy this year? The answer in my opinion is we'll do well to finish 4th and we will not win a trophy. Reason? If you can't create and score goals then you won't win football matches. Simple.
I think we have some very good players but we're still 4 top players from being anywhere near winning the league. The manager does not inspire confidence and seems at odds with himself most of the time. That is when he's not picking fights with players and damaging team morale.
If anyone thinks everything is fine and dandy, then you're deluding yourself indeed.