11 Aug 2015 11:07:15
Bit of a cheeky question here but who do you is holding. The team back the most arm Rooney or Van Gaal?
11 Aug 2015 11:26:00
Ermm what?
11 Aug 2015 11:36:43
spaghetti elephant trumpet
11 Aug 2015 11:40:17
I think the question sis who is holding the team back more - LVG or Wazza. Personally, I think we will be better off when both move on. I like LVG, he is great entertainment but I still have no idea what his philosophy is. All I know is we look dull and pedestrian. I realise it was 1 game but we still saw a lot of passing back and a lack of penetration. We need creativity and pace and I think Roooney won't work up front as he lacks pace. Not going get into the Rooney debate again but if Benzema is available, I'm amazed we have not tried to sign him
11 Aug 2015 11:58:27
jwalk
are u talking about last season or the spurs match
11 Aug 2015 12:04:59
Everything will be better when they both go. LVG is the worst though, a replacement may at least galvanise Rooney and not tangle himself up in "undroppable" comments. I don't rate Rooney highly, but he is the type of player that lifts his game when he has something to fight for (new contract for example). So a new manager may introduce much needed competition and also a new system which gets the most from attacking players. At the moment we could have Ronaldo, Messi & Bale up top and we would still look devoid of ideas.
When LVG goes we will get more joy from watching our beloved team, I am very confident of that.
11 Aug 2015 12:05:29
I think its LVG all day long. His obsession with possession is sacrificing any sort of style and excitement. I think the biggest problem is LVG ego, I know his philosophy is what it is and no player stands out and they are all equal, but sometimes it doesn't work like that.
Its tough because on one hand I am genuinely excited by this UTD team leading up to every game thinking we are going to be great. Then I watch it i'm always left feeling a bit disappointed. Even when we win.
The same conversation was aimed at Mourinho and Chelsea, boring football but getting results. Winning 1-0 etc.
11 Aug 2015 12:18:16
Rooney, has done for about 4 seasons
11 Aug 2015 12:28:38
Tony,
I agree about Benzema, maybe we are looking at somebody else.
If somehow we managed to win the league playing boring football would people be happy with that? I think I would knowing that LVG is not a long term solution, the manager after this needs a solid framework to go with and will hopefully be able to settle and look to the future.
11 Aug 2015 12:37:27
Apologies did not realise the damage that my spell check had done, and yes ajh that was what I was meant to mean. Not dig on LVG to much he has done a very important task in removing the dead wood but with the tactics he persists in employing (which I don't think work in the premier league I.e the slow build up) I'm not too sure how much further he can take us.
11 Aug 2015 12:47:22
do we look a better team when rooney isn't in it .
11 Aug 2015 13:21:01
Lvg definitely. We have not progressed from where we were 12 months ago. We're playing boring slow football. We've sacrificed speed entertainment for slow possession.
11 Aug 2015 13:48:26
Schmidfield,
12 months ago we lost 2-1 at home to Swansea and had no Champions League football to look forward to after finishing 7th. You have a very short memory if you think there has been no progress in 12 months.
11 Aug 2015 14:02:36
would of been interesting to see how our team would of looked if fergie was given the green light to go build another team
11 Aug 2015 14:19:54
LOL
Here we go. We might as well call this season a write off already.
Sod being in the trenches with some of you guys. I think I would rather dive on my bayonet.
11 Aug 2015 15:07:11
It's LVG that's digging the trench though Sam. He is making a tricky job much harder than it ought to be.
11 Aug 2015 15:30:11
Sorry beast, I don't agree mate. I think we are in a decent position at the moment. Yes, we need to bring in another attacking player and sort the De Gea situation out, but I think the team looks stronger and more organised, and that is mainly due to having a better CM and a proper RB.
If we can bring in Pedro or a player of that ilk, I think we will revert to a proper 433 formation with Depay and potentially Pedro attacking from the wings, which will, IMO, make us a more potent attacking force.