07 Jul 2015 14:27:25
Amazing how everyone seems happy with darmain, when Woodward and Co said they had an a list, b list and then probably a c list it's become clear for the rb position they needed to go to the d list!!! Darmain, noone ever heard of him and clearly we were scared of attempting to prize Coleman away and fail like we did with baines. Coleman wasn't 'flavour of the month' as some people think. He was one of the best right backs in the league for the last 2 or more seasons. Proven PL quality
07 Jul 2015 14:36:56
Whats your point Pep?
07 Jul 2015 14:37:52
Pep,
Any maybe we were met with a 'not for sale'. Then what do you do? Go to the next on the list, I can't say I know much about Darmain but what I do know is that he will have been scouted by United scouts and they have seen something in him. Just because you don't know him doesn't mean he isn't good, or are you pig headed enough to think you know every good player in the world?
From what I have read he is somewhat of a fan favourite over there, hard worker, rarely makes mistakes, very good defensively and a great engine going forward, decent price tag for a full back allowing us to spend money in other areas and I do love a signing out of nowhere like a Solskjaer or a Vidic, some of our best players are players like that, so maybe wait to see him play before you complain??
07 Jul 2015 14:39:05
You are one negative guy an just make up stuff. Do you have such a list and where do you get the idea that he was option D. One thing Italy does better than anyone else is producing world class defenders year after year so don't get the rant.
07 Jul 2015 14:42:47
I think "people being happy with darmian" are just the majority of people willing to give him a chance because they haven't seen enough of him to say definitively if he's a good or bad signing
Its pretty harsh to rate him as a "d list" signing or not of "united quality" without even letting him put on the jersey lol
How many of our best signings have been players that weren't well renowned such as solsjkaer, vidic, park
07 Jul 2015 14:47:15
I don't know if he's coming to United or not but that is a bit too negative. As reports suggest Bayern were also in for him and if he signs for them then you would come out and say he might have been a good player but if we sign him then he was on the d list.
07 Jul 2015 14:49:26
I tend to agree Pep. We looked at Alves (a player who has won every prize at the top level), but he signed a new contract at Barca. Then we looked at Coleman (one of the best right backs in the league), but Everton wanted a lot of money. So we turned our attention to Darmain, a star at a mid-table Italian club.
From what I've seen he's a decent player. But is he better than Clyne, let alone Coleman? I don't think so. We need a consistent rb to add stability. Instead we have worked our way down to a player who will take time to adapt to the EPL, and even then may struggle. What I've read about Darmain's strengths is that he is physically strong, quick and has a very good engine. His failings are that he is often positionally suspect and lacks a consistent final ball. Remind you of anyone?
07 Jul 2015 14:50:23
First choice for Italy, versatile, good age and a good price. He has had interest from other top clubs like bayern, I think it will be a great signing if it happens. Just because you haven't heard of him doesn't mean he's not any good, give the lad a chance he hasn't even signed yet.
07 Jul 2015 14:58:48
Just the response I was waiting for! If I'm negative overall compared to some posters then my word we are a negative bunch. Everytime I've tried to be positive I get grief for being naieve. Remember I'm the poster who wanted to think that players sign because we are manchester united, not for money! Is that not positive? Anyway end of the day well for being positive about him but I think standards are dropping here, simple as!
07 Jul 2015 15:06:48
Clyne was seen as too short. Darmian has height and can defend corners and freekicks well.
07 Jul 2015 15:07:16
I don't know much about this guy, but as others have said we have been fortunate in the past with unfamiliar names. Although Vidic, Evra and Solskjaer was a heck of a long time ago, the list of unfamiliar names that turned out to be flops is 20 X longer in recent years! And familiar names for that matter.
I'll give everyone a chance, but if he is coming this cheap and has flown under the radar in this social and rubbish media led world I am optimistically cautious.
If I had to put money on it I would say Rafael (HG player) will be the one talked about more than Darmian in 3 years time, but hopefully not.
07 Jul 2015 15:10:55
My bet is that 75% of people on here didn't have a clue about Darmian 2 weeks ago (me included).
Give the guy a chance I say, it ain't a big transfer fee so its worth the risk.
07 Jul 2015 15:14:06
Pepgiggs have u actually watched the player?, because what u have posted further down the page seems u haven't n it seems u r just pissed that we have signed some one u did not know much about, which means he is mediocre according to u.
Danny funny choice of words there " star at a midtable club " i don't recall coleman beong any different from that, i agree with your assesment of the player with a few differences that i don't think he is positionally suspect as u put it, yes he makes a few mistakes but then which defender doesn't, i agree with u about he being more defensive than an attacking fb but i would go as far as saying that he is better at defending than clyne an to an extent even coleman, attacking wise he below clyne and well below coleman.
If given a choice i would go for coleman over darmian but do u think that 30mn or so everton would want for coleman is fair price bcz at that price i would say is way overrated to be any where near 30mn.
We must remember that he first choice for italy, if u r first choice for a team like italy u must be doing something good
07 Jul 2015 15:19:55
We haven't even signed him yet and the bashing has already begun. Its quite embarrassing actually. I haven't seen much of Darmian apart from his excellent performance against England at the World Cup. He is first choice for Italy and generally Italian defenders seem to be very good. He is tall and has pace which will definitely help him in the EPL.
As for us "working down the list" what do you expect us to do? Alves clearly was looking for a new contract which he got and had little interest in moving to us. Ed002 has repeatedly told us that Coleman is our preferred target but is "not for sale" and there is little you can do about that. Coleman is also suspect defensively. Clyne is decent but I won't shed any tears over not signing him and I have read reports that Van Gaal decided against going for him and his first choice was indeed United ahead of Liverpool.
If we do sign Darmian, how about we give him a chance, support him, see how he does and then make a judgement? I seem to remember us signing a certain Nemanja Vidic who wasn't an "A list" defender by any means and he did just fine. Same with Evra.
07 Jul 2015 15:21:27
Not every player we sign has to be a world class player already, that's what scouts are for, unbelievable.
07 Jul 2015 15:24:07
I saw him play once in friendly against England . He played pretty well on the night but hard to judge a player on one game ,especially a friendly .
But it's amazing the amount of people here writing him off , reckoning he's not as good as Clyne or Coleman etc when they've seen little or nothing of him apart from YouTube or a write up on some blog
07 Jul 2015 15:29:49
One good point made above about his height and the fact we leaked goals from set pieces. Fair enough. Like I said u r all happy to give him a chance, clearly the only thing we can do and someone said they are happy we have a proper right back at the club, we do Rafael and Zidane favourite loanee oh and valencia who will probably still play at right back now
07 Jul 2015 14:51:06
ed 4 u have said about darmain long back can u explain wat kind of player he his and do u rate him higher then cylne and coleman if u have time .thx
{Ed004's Note - I haven't seen enough of him but reading around and he seems a very good potential signing.}
07 Jul 2015 16:09:01
We Must have been chasing for a little while as apparently we had 3 rejected bids.
07 Jul 2015 16:12:39
The difference between Coleman and Darmain, moyes, is that Coleman is a proven EPL defender. Darmain may prove a great signing, but is completely untested in the EPL, and the one thing we need defensively next season is some stability.
Next season we will most likely have a new keeper, a new cb and a new rb. It's pretty much assured that our new cb will be new to EPL, and now our it appears that our rb will be too. That means that we will have two defenders trying to adjust to the league and LVG (who is hardly the easiest guy to play for). I worry about our defence when they'll have to spend the first few months trying to develop an understanding.
As for the height thing. Alves is smaller than Clyne and it wasn't an issue, and Coleman is only an inch bigger (he he he). But seriously, it does look like he was third on our list, and he is a dangerous gamble when we need defenders who can hit the ground running.
07 Jul 2015 18:04:30
Not often danny pughunited agrees with me ;)
07 Jul 2015 18:36:02
Why Do some think that Darmien is on the lower list. for,all we know he might have been first choice and moves have been going on behind the scenes.
No one but the club knoe who we are after. the fans have there views and it can change daily, the papers have there view and it does change daily.
Until Sept we won't know who has come in and left only then should we judge the club and what signings we have.