12 Jun 2015 13:47:39
A genuine question, that I think deserves to be thought about prior to replying and expressing an opinion:
If Harry Kane was called 'Sergio Redondo' or 'Juan Carlos Rodriquez' would your opinion change as to whether he's 'worth the money' or in fact, change your opinion of whether you want him at United or not?.
I got asked this last night and thought it was a good question. If Tottenham had bought a 'Sergio Redondo' last Summer, and he went on to score a hatful plus win the Young Player of the Year award, I wondered myself whether my opinion would change as currently I'm in the camp of 'Harry Kane's not worth £40m and not sure whether he suit us, etc.'
Truth be told. I think I would think differently, but I'm not sure why? Fashionable name perhaps? Or maybe just because English players are typically not a technical as foreign players?
anyway, some food for thought and glad to hear comments.
12 Jun 2015 13:59:45
Yes I think it would change a lot of people's view tbh. But, the price wouldn't be being quoted as high as it is either I don't think. If Sergio Redondo was a Colombian 21 year old, who scored the goals that Harry Kane has in his first real season, people would be very interested, but the prices being thrown about would be around the £25m mark i'd think, but because he is English the prices being thrown around are £40/50m, it is ridiculous! As I have said, if the price was around £25m plus £15m in add on's depending on his success, I'd go for it, no matter what his name is.
12 Jun 2015 14:00:31
i don't care how much he will cost or what his name is i haven't been massively impressed.
had a great season but i don't see him progressing into a top top player
12 Jun 2015 13:55:03
You might b right there . !
12 Jun 2015 13:55:41
People are scared that he will be a flop because it's happened before, everyone also thinks anyone who is English isn't good enough. Based on the national team.
12 Jun 2015 14:01:55
It matters that he's English only insofar that English players = higher transfer fees.
Kane is obviously a good player, but is he a £50m player? I don't think so. Would I buy Sergio Redondo for £50m on the back of one good season? Not a chance.
The lad has stated that he wants to stay at Spurs. Spurs will demand an extortionate fee for him. And he has, in real terms, only played one full season at the top level. Absolutely ridiculous to even be considering making a move for him now in my opinion.
12 Jun 2015 14:02:49
No he gets judged on his performances. Not his name, nationality, ethnicity, race or religious beliefs and anyone who thinks otherwise don't have a clue about the game.
12 Jun 2015 14:08:58
WF Red Devil, my issue with regards to the Kane Saga is the first 2 things people say about Kane is ''He's young'' and ''He's English''. Does this justify the price tag? The second point they make is that he scored loads of goals last season. Charlie Austin is young and English and scored only 3 goals less in a worse team but scored 5 against the top 4 and Liverpool and Southampton, same as Kane. Would anyone spend that much on Austin? I want a striker who will make an immediate impact on the team, a Benzema, I don't believe Kane would and I also think Wilson is actually a better all round player and finisher, he is just a season or 2 behind Kane in his development, physically and mentally. On the flip side, I think you have a point when you say the exoctic names are more appealing. Can you tell me more about this Sergio Redondo?
12 Jun 2015 14:34:04
ports
very good post that
12 Jun 2015 14:36:58
Ports,
If you watched Austin and Kane last season you would see exactly why people are talking about Kane as being a lot more expensive, yes Austin scored goals but there is a hell of a lot more to Kane's game than just goals.
12 Jun 2015 14:45:35
Thank you jred
12 Jun 2015 14:54:04
i would say kane and austin have a similar game to be honest , although kane has that youthful look about his game.
12 Jun 2015 15:03:33
Agree with Ports and madness the reported cost of what it would take. No one in their right mind would do this. It takes players to consistent stand out a few seasons before someone forks out that sort of money for them and not after one season.
Believe me if he was worth it Madrid would be the first to come for him.
12 Jun 2015 16:03:54
Agreed, Ports. I think everyone has forgotten about Wilson. I've watched him for years, and I honestly think he's going to be a top player. Why pay £40m for a player, when we have a lad here who's got the potential (and he's not a kick in the ar$e of it at the minute) to be better still?
But then what do I know? I still think Januzaj's going to be a top player :)
12 Jun 2015 16:12:17
Ports and jred. Don't you think that the fact that he's young and he still banged in a shedload of goals makes him even more valuable. Why would someone who scored over 20 league goals suddenly become useless overnight? Hen didn't score fluke goals, he scored all types of goals and he's here to stay.
12 Jun 2015 16:44:02
nomid
cisse for newcastle was the best striker the epl has ever seen for 6 month.
kane is a decent player but i don't think he is any better than benteke for example or lukaku .
i don't think he really has the tools or potential to really push on and be a top player.
12 Jun 2015 16:53:19
no mid
so of added to my post that at 21 benteke scored 19 league goals for villa.
2 less than the 50 mill kane managed at the same age this season
{Ed007's Note - Ah but did Benteke ever win Young POTY?}
12 Jun 2015 17:14:45
Aren't Villa wanting about 35 million for Benteke?
12 Jun 2015 17:27:15
gds
benteke and kane are both decent players.
i would probaly rate benteke higher than kane to be honest.
like i say kane is round about that type of level at best imo
12 Jun 2015 17:04:58
007
he might of if he was english.
no mid
lukaku got 17 for west brom when he was only 20 years old
12 Jun 2015 22:52:21
Again from a spurs point of view, benteke and kane are miles apart, kane works a lot harder, he will chase players down and score from anywhere. as for Austin, I like him, good player but let's not forget kane only played from Nov/Dec. As I said he wants to learn and learn whether he stays with us for the foreseeable future? And then moves to a united or Watford? ( he may not improve), but he will always want to learn and at least try and improve. The problem is I like where he's at at the moment. Wouldn't want him doing a tiger Woods and tinkering with his game too much and going backwards. One things for sure the weight of expectation is a heavy weight to burden