12 Jun 2015 12:33:28
why are people so concerned with how much we are looking to pay for players?
it isn't our money and if the money is there and the player in question is going to make us better why worry how much he will cost?
12 Jun 2015 12:43:07
1)if we do overspend then every club would take us for a ride for every and any player. This applies to salaries too.
2) even if there is no fixed 'budget', spending a lot on any player makes it harder to spend so much again.
3)FFP
4)even if we have a lot of money, its never a bad thing to follow a good business model. Buy cheap, sell costly. All clubs do it. It doesn't make them selling clubs.
12 Jun 2015 12:47:25
For me, there's still a budget and spending over the odds on a player sets a precedent for other teams in the future when we look to buy. We have to pay inflated prices as it is because we are Manchester United but if a player's worth is £20 Million, we should not expect to have to pay £35 Million. If I win the £95 Million Euro tonight and want to buy a house priced at £5 Million, I will expect to pay £5 Million not £10-15 Million because I have £95 Million in the bank. There is also the risk of the player not being the player you expect then you have the frustration of not having the opportunity to invest more money else where because you spent your budget on one player.
12 Jun 2015 12:54:29
It's how we spend our money, if we buy 1 player for 60m it's likely that we will have less in the pot to sort out other areas, and we need to bring in at least 3 players imo, so I'd rather not spend all our money on one big player then buy sub par players for inflated prices that won't sort us out, spend the 30m that is required to get the best players rather than 60 on one then 15m on average players (rojo, blind)
12 Jun 2015 13:23:14
Also I love the irony that 2-3 years ago this site was full of people complaining that we won't spend money, the glazers are tight, they are ruining our club and we are falling behind chelsea and City. Now we are willing to spend we are 'spending too much' and it is 'our money they are spending so they should spend it right'. It can't just be that people like to moan and find a negative in every situation??
I for one would be happy for us to spend money on the right players that mean we can win the league however much that may be.
12 Jun 2015 13:30:49
imightbesomeone - what would you class as us over spending say on harry kane? would 40 million be classed as over spending because we are not going to get him for less that that.
prices these days are a lot different to 10 years ago,
for a player who has just scored over 30 goals, english and young i think its great business if we can get him for 40 million, to me that is the going the rate and you have to pay it.
city had a 30 million bid rejected for sterling who wasn't as good last season so surely the price being mentioned for kane is not that much.
my point is - if the money is there and we are investing it in the right players to move us forward and win things surely that is a good business model?
12 Jun 2015 13:58:47
GDS, personally I have never moaned about the Glazers, my primary concern is what happens on the pitch. My feelings towards Kane is that, as you have identified, he is not the right player for the amount of money when you look at what else you could get for that money. Now, he scored a lot of goals last season but only 5 against the big 4, Southampton and Liverpool. 12 games. We spent big money on Rooney at a young age but he was well known within the football circles as a huge talent, Kane has appeared from relatively unknown status and even had 4 relatively unsuccessful loans. I cannot deny he had a great season, but is the fact he's English going towards the hype? Marcus Stewart and Kevin Phillips also had a great first seasons in the Premier League. For the £50 Million I would suggest you could get Benzema or Cavani and I wouldn't expect Bayern to get more than £50 Million for Lewandowski so in relation to this, I don't think Kane is worth the money suggested. I also think fans who invest money on tickets, shirts, merchandise do reserve some right on how they feel the money should be spent even though this will be ignored.
12 Jun 2015 14:01:58
i think sterling is a better player than kane
12 Jun 2015 14:12:27
Spb
You do realise we're dealing with levy here. Any player he sells is going to be overpriced. You say we can't get him for less than 40m? Well what if it was 50 or 60? By your logic, it still wouldn't be overpriced because it would be impossible to get him otherwise.
40m for a player whos had one good season is ridiculous. He's not very skillful or very fast. He's a hard worker and apparently that alone is enough to get people salivating.
Btw who would sit on the bench? Him or rooney? Or would we again play rooney in the midfield?
12 Jun 2015 14:41:12
whos to say we wouldn't play 2 up top or rooney behind kane
12 Jun 2015 14:42:40
and i don't really care how much he would cost
12 Jun 2015 14:47:14
imbs,
Him being a hard worker alone is why people are salivating? I know a bit more about football than that mate, I have watched him play regularly, I think he is brilliant, I enjoy watching him play and I would love him at United, if we have to pay a large amount then so be it.
Ports,
Not having a go at you because I have heard in various circles about 5 people say the words 'Marcus Stewart' to me now, if that is the example that people are having to dig out then I am thinking it is not the best one, it was 15 years ago and he didn't score the number of goals (at home and Europe) that Kane scored. Also Kevin Philips was 27 when he had his great year in the premier league, so again, not the greatest example.
12 Jun 2015 15:00:00
spb
ofcourse now you don't care how much he costs. I just put down that argument of yours.
And what exactly is special about kane? You'll never see anyone describe him as blazing fast or having a good touch. No outrageous skills or technique. The things you'll always hear are "young","english","works very hard" and "never stops running". As if that is at all enough. Why not buy mandzukic then?
12 Jun 2015 15:09:57
GDS2
i've seen him play too. i really saw nothing special. Tottenham's standout performer was eriksen.
12 Jun 2015 15:13:44
GDS2, Phillips and Stewart were playing in lesser teams though and weren't in Europe. Your primary argument though is he had a good season, so did they. They are both English as well which I why they are used as examples.
12 Jun 2015 15:27:36
I think 'top finisher' would be on the list too?
12 Jun 2015 16:22:07
Ports, who can we get for £40m who is the right age and has scored over 30 goals and is used to the PL or even if they haven't played in PL.
Benzema? His camp have already ridiculed Manchester and he'll come with an attitude. He's already rejected us once before.
Martinez, played in Portuguese league and has good potential and no doubt Porto will let him go for less than £35m
Cavani? Prices being quoted £60m, now that is over priced.
Hugain? I like him a lot but again he's never played in our league and price being quoted at £50m.
Strikers don't come cheap,but Kane is the new kid on the block and his stock will rise and he happens to be the type of striker we're looking for.
12 Jun 2015 17:09:41
no mid
is kane available ?
the player had said he doesn't want to leave .
spurs have said he's not for sale
12 Jun 2015 17:23:14
NoMid, Lacazette.