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11 Jun 2015 11:52:16
Now with De Gea looking certain to leave us I am pretty sure that after 3 years from now on, fans in this site will be worshiping him and still slating Rooney who still will be playing with us.

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11 Jun 2015 12:25:54
DDG has been a tremendous shot stopper but I genuinely don't think we will miss him that badly. The next keeper needs to be a talker and more helpful to those around him. He may not make as many saves but I think a better organiser as keeper won't have to make as many.

Of course I'd rather keep DDG than gamble on a replacement, but I don't think we will suffer if he goes. Look at some of the breath-taking saves Adrian made during the season, far more than DDG, if he wants to go who cares get shot of him.

Rooney - he holds us back, I can't wait until we do what needs to be done. I appreciate what he has done during his whole career but he is no longer fit for the key role he plays. His time has come, but he doesn't deserve a slating, like he doesn't deserve much of the praise he gets.

11 Jun 2015 12:14:41
Wayne Rooney made a rod for his own back with a certain percentage of United fans by twice holding the club to ransom. I don't see why he should be worshipped for holding out for more money and would have left us if he hadn't have got it. Personally I think we should've sold him for a premium a few years back when he first started declining.

11 Jun 2015 12:32:19
The greatest player to have graced the pitch on Rooney

"If you look at the technical ability of a player like Wayne Rooney, he is as good as any player in Europe," Messi commented. "Rooney has exceptional quality. Not just great technical ability, but also works very hard for his team. I'm sure Manchester United will never want to let him leave, though."

I guess you guys know more than guys who lace it up and play with him and against him.

11 Jun 2015 12:56:33
Lloris between the sticks will be just as good I think.

11 Jun 2015 12:58:48
His great technical ability must be why his short passing is poor, first touch let's him down and when put under any pressure he loses the ball frequently then. What you expect messi to say when asked about a player he's not going to be horrible is he. I'm sorry people can be blinkered all they like, he's a good player on his day, he's not world class, he is holding us back and he's been in decline for a good few years. Yes he's passionate, hard working etc. but for United to move forward, particularly with this system, we need better.

11 Jun 2015 13:21:34
I think there are a few keepers who will do just as well

11 Jun 2015 13:24:13
I was one of the people who said we should sell him if he wants to go and it was more about not keeping someone who does not want to be here and nothing to do with him as a player. That is now over and i think people need to get over it.

Does anyone think Lewandowski or Benzema would be a bigger influence than Rooney. I think they would be great additions along side rooney but don't necessarily agree that we improve the team one bit by selling him and buying one of them.

I always wonder why guys like Mourinho love him after all one of the best managers around. I guess we will only find out what Rooney is worth if we ever put him out there as being available which will not happen. I reckon he will retire after his playing days are over with United.

11 Jun 2015 13:50:35
beast

we struggled to replace big peter.
we struggled to replace VDS.

11 Jun 2015 14:05:34
I guess if Rooney was sold at that time years ago, people here would have known his real value

11 Jun 2015 13:58:56
Just so you all know, 'Welsh Red Devil' is not me under a different name, although I do agree with him/her :-)

11 Jun 2015 14:16:33
It's just time to move on from this debate all the time, it's a polarising debate which ends up in arguing and petty spats, agree to disagree is best, tho my opinion is right ;p ha love you all x

11 Jun 2015 15:33:24
Rooney is rubbish = anyone with eyes

Rooney is a legend = 50% of utd fans who like to follow the 'must be great he is a Utd player' bandwagon.

Messi is hardly going to come forward and say 'Rooney isn't as good as everyone hoped, or he is a good little player etc' is he? Messi also thought ibrahimovic wasn't a good footballer either so hmmmm.

Anyhoo like I've squabbled with many on here about I think this just sums it up well. Last season wazza scores I'm sure it was the third goal in a fist half rout of spurs. Now I was at work and leaching via online commentary and his goal was described as 'majestic and fabulous' on the way home the radio was awash with Rooney showing what he 'does best' and how he had slalomed between defenders and I quote 'left three defenders for dead' I had just finished a debate to which both of my colleagues agreed he is overhyped and rated. So I'm thinking sh*t he has shown me up a kipper here.

So I get home and watch this goal everyone's raving about and what?? I'm thinking of checking what nationalities the radio and commentary guys were as I can guess straight away. As got those who can't mind the goal he received a pass from a spurs player in CM, had to take 2 touches to control it, turned and ran towards the box (nobody near him) and shot before he even went past a single player?? I'm looking thinking is this another one he scored?

When players get lauded for being technically great with exceptional skill I think of ronaldinho, messi ronaldo etc kinking out of very tight spots with skill and precision. If and that's a big if Rooney does that it's with raw power and pushing past folk with the ball bumbling about under zero control or meant skill moves. I would actually love to see Rooney try a step over at full pace! I can see it now tripping up and landing on his chops oh how that would make my day.

Point is he will always be celebrated being English and is only here due to his marketability (god knows how he still has that) he slows the play down and isn't of the top level where faster teams like PSG, bayern, barca real etc could use him as he is NOT technically good enough. We have tried a mix of young, wazza and do Maria as a front 3 cam and it didn't work as di Maria is to pact for them mata worked better as they are all the same pace and level with each other. So we are finally up to date on the formation side going forward now we just need to replace the players with guys that can play that system with pace and that's where Rooney holds everything up.

IMO of course ;)

11 Jun 2015 16:14:35
Ha, Brendan I'm guessing you've had similar views and opposing opinions as me in the past over this topic ha. I am a he just so you know.

11 Jun 2015 18:00:14
Jono

Messi was not asked what he thinks of rooney but asked which british player he rates and he said Rooney and not any other player. Could have said Bale, Kane, Terry or the anyone else people might think is the best british player around.

11 Jun 2015 19:06:17
Well if messi said it then it must be true, maybe it's why LVG wants him to just have 10 touches a game cz the technically better players don't give the ball away ;p

11 Jun 2015 19:31:33
Too many to remember WRD, I'm trying to stay clear of these debates now, not good for my health :-)

11 Jun 2015 19:34:49
GCU, Messi isn't going to say a Real player is he? He probably hasn't really seen Kane much and I'm sure he wouldn't ever choose a defender with the player he is, and being all attack minded. If that is what he was asked, there was only ever going to be one name wasn't there? Let's face it the rest of the British players are either decent prospects but too young to know for sure or sh*t. Simples.

12 Jun 2015 06:55:05
Brendan

If we go by the view of let's sell him, do you for one minute doubt Chelsea, PSG, Real, City, Arsenal will not be in there and we would see a massive bidding war. Are all these clubs stupid and run by idiots?

I reckon only Barca would not be in there given their front 3. Even real would bench Benzema for Rooney.

I think people take out their frustrations on Rooney for our short comings in other areas of the pitch.

We saw both him and Falcao in the same team this year and the gap is substantial.

{Ed001's Note - Real Madrid have no interest whatsoever in Rooney at all. Why do you think he signed his new contract in the end? No one wants Rooney, unless he is cheap. The massive bidding war never turned up when he made it known he wanted to leave, yet you think clubs would suddenly be interested now he is playing at half the level he used to. Why when they weren't interested when he was playing at the top of his game?}

12 Jun 2015 08:50:20
GCU there would be no war to sign him believe me. Real, Barca or Chelsea wouldn't want him. PSG or City maybe due to the name and City to get one over us a bit, but not because of ability. We wouldn't get more than about £25m for him now.







 

 

 
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