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15 May 2015 13:20:12
Gunna try and get a post a day out, because i have very little going on in my life at the moment and i like the debates on here.

2 things.

One is an expansion on a comment i made earlier but it was quite far down the page so i don't think it will get much reading.

Could Bale's recent performances possibly be the fact that he knows the RM fans hate him so doesn't want to do anything to annoy them. For example, yes, he could have bullied Evra all game with his pace and power but didn't want in case he messed it up, opening himself up for a load more abuse. Speaking as a Young(ish) footballer (ST) myself, i know that if i feel i will get loads of abuse for attempting to skin someone, instead of just passing it simple, then i won't do it. No being big headed but i do have some pace and skill to my game and i feel that i can take it round a fair few people, but like bale, i have a very moany team who won't appreciate the trying they only appreciate if it comes off.

Point number 2.

Kane for £45m is being touted around. Personally i wouldn't even have a sniff. The lad has quality yes, but one good season doesn't merit £45m. The fact he is English does play a massive part in the inflated price, but Levy plays a bigger part. The man is a tyrant and he will be laughing all the way to the bank if we paid that much. Kane is a maximum of £20m for me, there are much better players, that play up front and play in positions we need to fill more than ST, that you can get for that kind of money.
For example:
Vidal
Nainggolan
Strootman
Gundogan
Hummels
Otamendi
Clyne
Laporte
Koke as Right Mid
Muller as Right Mid
Coleman and the list goes on.

Would be a bad move by LvG

{Ed004's Note - On your Bale point I agree completely. He looks like a player who must be hating his football atm. Everything points to him being unhappy, his family moving back home, his agent stating he can't speak the language and Madrid players and fans reactions to him every match day and in the media. I think there is a good chance he will leave and think whichever premiership team signs him will be favourites for the league.
On your Kane point I would worry about the reported fee especially if he proves to be a one season wonder. I don't think the club have any interest in him but he does seem to be LvG's ideal kind of striker for this current system. He is quick enough to run the channels and in behind the other teams defence while being strong enough and tall enough to replace Fellaini. Maybe a deal involving Hernandez would suit everyone}

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15 May 2015 13:58:02
@Ed004

Most of the noises coming out of Madrid though are saying that Bale still wants to stay and prove himself. I think Ed001 said something similar on here. But if the Madrid fans don't want him they may sell him. A bit like Di Maria where they pushed him out.

If the fee is similar to what we paid for Di Maria then maybe it could be a good deal. De Gea is likely to leave to them anyway so a De Gea plus 20-25mil tops is how much I'd pay, no more. He hasn't had a great season, he isn't on form and certainly hasn't become a better player than his last season at Spurs to warrant us paying any more. Also, who else would be able to match an offer? Completely lack of competition for us to sign him too. Don't think Chelsea would go for him, they are likely to get Griezmann tied up for big money. City seem to be chasing Pogba and that will mean they can't get another big signing. I doubt Bayern Munich are interested or that he suits Pep's style.

So if they want to sell him, it will be to us. Play him where he was most effective I.e. behind the main striker and with depay and di maria on either flank that would be a mouth watering attack and increase the pace of our attacking game which we desperately need. Him and Depay both score from outside the box so it would be very difficult for defenses to just sit back.

The key is to getting him at the right price.

{Ed004's Note - I just think now is the summer to make a push for Bale. If Ronaldo starts to decline and Bale picks up his form football fans can be fickle. He garuntee's us a title challenge at the very least. However, I wouldn't want us getting him at the expense of signing a rb, cb, cm and Depay. So the value would have to be around 50-60 mill I think. Also Griezmann is a fantastic player. Chelsea are going to get even stronger next season. Also who are you hoping replaces De Gea. I think I'm still in denial about the possibility of him going so haven't considered it}

15 May 2015 14:50:48
@Edpp4

It has to be Lloris who replaces De Gea. Already experienced in the EPL and is just as good a shot stopper. There are rumors that Valdez might be used in the deal. That could be a great option I think. Not only will it bring the price down, it will also give spurs a top keeper and give Valdez regular game time. Could suit all parties involved.

Also, this might be unpopular but I would consider letting Mata go, I don't think he adds enough pace or strength to the team.

{Ed004's Note - Watching lloris this season has put me off him. Against city he was poor for the goal and before that misjudged a bouncing ball in which Aguero should have had a pen and an extra man advantage. Then the game after he misjudged a cross for stokes goal. He would get slaughtered by the media at a clubs like ours and pretty sure he has had confidence issues in the past? He also isn't commanding enough to organise a back line. Also levy would take us to the cleaners and back, he's also 28 which isn't very young so not sure if he would improve on his flaws much. I'd love Cech but Mourinho would never agree to that. I haven't seen enough of any other keepers to comment}

15 May 2015 15:05:02
Well every keeper has a moment or two mate, Lloris has been one of the top 3-4 keepers in the league for sure. Apart from him Handanovic would be a reasonably priced option. Both of them are certainly better than Tim Krul.

{Ed004's Note - Some reports seem to think Valdes will replace him. If that's the case do we look at signing a younger keeper with the potential to be as good as De Gea}

15 May 2015 15:10:36
I'd ignore anything coming out of Madrid. It is in their interest to make it seem that Bale wants to stay and they don't want to sell him.

Rule number one when trying to sell something is to not make it seem the buyer is doing you a favour!

15 May 2015 15:34:18
Why is everyone so sure we will try for a first choice keeper? As far as I am concerned, the reason Valdes was brought in was to prove his fitness and because the club were aware of DeGea's possible departure. I think he will be our number 1 if we lose DeGea, at least for a few seasons and we will bring in a younger, cheaper keeper to eventually take over. On form, Valdes is as good as Lloris but £25m cheaper.

{Ed004's Note - I have to agree with Brendan here. Think we will sign or promote a younger keeper with valdes being our number 1. My only concern is how good he will be dealing with crosses}

15 May 2015 15:43:28
Rather spend 45mill on muller than kane muller is better equiped for van gaals system and proven striker kane will not score as many goals next season

15 May 2015 15:45:59
If de gea leaves it has to be lloris for me too and sorry ed004 I have to disagree with you on the age issue I happen to think 28 is relatively young for a goalkeeper as they can play at the top til their mid/late 30s

But ideally we all want the same thing. de gea to stay!!

15 May 2015 16:39:15
i think begovic is a far better keeper than lloris

{Ed025's Note - not in my opinion jred..

15 May 2015 18:18:24
Many foreign keepers struggle hugely with crosses, a few games against Stoke etc and he'd be fine. If the rest of the team is improved then the gk won't be as important as DeGea has had to be.







 

 

 
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