15 Mar 2015 21:26:19
Well that's how we play with David Moyes's team out there!! I'm including Herrera as a Moyes player, in that it was he who supposedly identified him and initiated the signing.Otherwise Blind was the only addition. Di Maria and Falcao were red herrings. Hopefully the former will have a good second season, but the latter is surely not going to get another year at OT.
Honestly, I think what we're starting to see is how much better we are without RVP, who, IMO - and have said many times - was a poor signing notwithstanding the first half of his first season. It is his inclusion that puts the team out of balance. Moreover I think he's a very arrogant self-opinionated person and a divisive influence. If LVG has any cojones he will not play in a United shirt again.
I don't know whether if we'd added 5m to the transfer fee and 50% to his wages it would have ever swayed Hazard to United, rather than Chelsea, but between RVP and Hazard, which one was the better 2012 signing? It's not even close, both in respect to the football and the financials. Hazard is now probably worth more than he was purchased for, whereas RVP may well be completely past his sell-by date.
15 Mar 2015 21:54:49
Are u classing Reals midfield a Moyes one too as he wanted Kroos and Bale?
15 Mar 2015 22:13:41
Shawthing I personally don't see the point in letting RVP leave. With his form this season combined with the fact he's not going to get any younger and his contract only having one year on it we aren't going to get much value for him.
He may not be as mobile as Rooney but he is still a predator in the box and if next season he accepts he will not be an automatic starter then there are many benefits of having a player of his experience on the bench who could come on to change a game. Also he has heaps of experience to share with the youngsters coming through (imagine Wilson learning how to sharp shoot like RVP with his pace).
He could be utilised the way Larsson was during his time at United for example.
15 Mar 2015 22:19:14
we signed rvp and he single handedly won us the title, he was worth every penny its a shame this season his injurys and his form have been below par but he is still a world class player when fully fit.
15 Mar 2015 22:34:41
No, not really, since they weren't available. Nor am I suggesting Moyes didn't have to go. His position at the end of last season was untenable, even if that was as much down to bad luck as bad decision-making and lack of leadership.
15 Mar 2015 23:19:59
He only scored 12 goals last season. He was a one season wonder for us. When you look at it, he had one great season for Arsenal so, maybe it's because of his injuries, but I think from a total career point of view he's overrated, and at his age he's not going to get any better. His salary could be more effectively employed elsewhere.
Compare his stats to Wayne Rooney's who has 40+ more career goals since 2004-5, probably a load more assists, and is 2 years younger.
I'd rather keep Falcao.
I don't dispute that his contribution in the first season was integral to us winning #20, but to me it was at the cost of overall team development.
16 Mar 2015 00:00:35
You do realise we would not have won number 20 without him that season don't you?? So your saying we should never have signed him? We would be years without the title. Also the revenue made from winning the league and shirt sales from kids for rvp, has more than made him a worthwhile signing
16 Mar 2015 01:29:23
You don't know we wouldn't have won the title without him, though I admit it's likely we wouldn't have done so. It depends on who else we might have signed. What I'm saying it was a very short term signing, and it masked the inherent problems at the club, to wit, the failure to replace the midfield and the aging defenders.
16 Mar 2015 10:00:28
Moyes Team? Most were SAF team
Just goes to show how inept Moyes was at this level he had the same players minus Hererra and Blind
16 Mar 2015 11:41:25
What's falcao done this season that he should be kept? Waste of wages.