02 Mar 2015 09:47:33
Having just watched the highlights from both the Liverpool and Arsenal games from over the weekend and looking at the remaining fixtures, I have to admit I am a very concerned fan indeed.
The momentum Liverpool have put together, their pace in the final third and the fact they have match-winners who can produce something special is very worrying. Arsenal on the other hand, well they know how to achieve top four during the crunching climax which is the Premier League. Wenger has been around the CL run-in block that many times fourth place should be renamed the Wenger spot.
Looking at the fixtures I can't see us getting there at the moment. I would never want to see us lose but I hope if we beat the Gunners in the FA cup it doesn't become a distraction. I will not be happy with a solitary FA cup as a consolation for this season. WE NEED the CL or we may find our self in a hole that will be very difficult to dig ourselves out of in the future.
At this moment in time, taking on board our form, our performances and that of our rivals, as well as the fixtures ahead if LVG can propel us into the CL this season then I take my hat off to him and it will be a huge achievement.
02 Mar 2015 09:54:47
I would not take my hat off to him if he gets us there because after the initial few months when we were plagued by injuries we have had a pretty good and fit squad.
Given the amount of money we spent and the number of the times LvG keeps on blabbering on about philosophy we should not have been in a position where qualifying for top 4 woul start looking difficult.
And yes, given the form of Arsenal and Liverpool as well as considering our own form and fixture list it looks very very difficult for us to make it to top 4.
02 Mar 2015 10:41:35
MB- I not speaking in regards to the whole season here. I am basing this from this point on when you consider the situation we are in even the most avid LVG hater would have to agree he has a tough hill to climb and if he gets us the top four place it will be remarkable.
02 Mar 2015 10:59:11
Here comes the money references again [yawn] spending money does not guarantee success, money has been spent to fill holes and apart from the opportunist purchase of ADM and getting overcharged for Shaw the rest totals short of £60M for 3 players not exactly astronomical figures. Add to that the fact that Blind was probably the only LVG target out of 6. How much money have Real Madrid spent and still couldn't win the league last year, yet its ancelotti's name people keep throwing out there. How much have Chelsea and City spent and add to that Liverpool last summer??? Stop associating tge amount of money spent with LVG they are not related in the slightest and when the largest chunk of that money went on a player who's struggling to emulate Chris Eagles the argument is void.
{Ed001's Note - how is it void? You are just talking nonsense out of sheer wilful stupidity or ignorance! The money is relevant, Ancelotti won the Champions League, which is Madrid's priority, so what on earth are you gibbering on about there? The money LVG spent, and it was him who agreed to all of the signings no matter how much you blind apologists want to pretend it wasn't anything to do with him, was the biggest in Europe. Now you want to excuse the spending because the huge sums that were spent has been spent on players not performing, when it is the managers job to get the best out of those players! So it is very relevant and only ignorance or stupidity can deny that.}
02 Mar 2015 11:29:44
rzomcr that is one of the worst replies I have read on this site.
02 Mar 2015 11:38:37
Rzomcr - between the Ancelotti comment below and this one above you've lost the plot mate.
02 Mar 2015 11:43:16
Firstly, I said one player wasnt performing not all. secondly I didn't say he didn't agree to the signings I said they were not his choices, ADM and Falcao were offered and based on sheer profile they were taken on as anyone would have. So basically your saying if a club spends £150m they should win the league then, no matter what state the teams in at the time etc etc??? and are you trying to say RM didn't care about the league?? You sir are the one talking nonsense
{Ed001's Note - they were not his choices but he agreed to them, so that makes them his choice. Did I say anywhere that United should win the league on that spend? Nope, making things up in your head there. Did I say Madrid don't care about the league? No again you are making up more nonsense in your head. You are getting more and more ignorant by the post. Try reading and understanding, rather than just making stuff up in your head.}
02 Mar 2015 11:47:41
i wouldn't say arsenal were great yesterday i watched the game and Everton had there moments, a few times they could and should have scored.
as for these fixtures, Liverpool and arsenal have all got difficult fixtures aswell, love the fact our own fans are writing us off.
02 Mar 2015 11:50:50
rzomcr your comments are filled with assumptions as ED has pointed out.
Nobody here is saying that spending 150million guarantees success, however as fans we are well within our rights to expect us to play better football than the c4ap we have been served this season given the team we have.
02 Mar 2015 11:51:19
You said CL was their priority did you not? therefore discounting the fact they came 3rd in the league as if they wasn't really trying to win it, if that's not what you meant how else should that statement be perceived?
{Ed001's Note - it would be perceived as saying that winning the Champions League is their priority and they did that. What is so difficult for you to understand about that? Man Utd's priority this season is top 4, that doesn't mean the FA Cup is not relevant, it just means that winning it is not the priority. I am struggling to understand why you even feel the need to get this clarified?}
02 Mar 2015 12:01:34
spb if you are saying that the fixture list for United, Arsenal and Liverpool are equally difficult then you clearly have not seen the fixture list.
Me writing off the team sitting in my bedroom will not affect the team nor will it make any change in the results so rest assured that me being positive or negative means squat.
It is not about our own fans writing us off but it is about being realistic. Just take a look a the stats:
Do we have a difficult fixture list than Liverpool and Arsenal? Yes, most certainly imo.
Are Arsenal and Liverpool in better form than United? Yes, much better form.
Do I think we will end up in top 4? I want us to but it looks difficult.
Do I want to be proven wrong by United finishing in top 4 and playing well? I most certainly would love to be proven wrong here.
02 Mar 2015 12:18:16
A team like Real Madrid should have CL and League double as a priority not one or the other. people put their pennies in one argument then take the same pennies out another to suit them, so UTD should apparently be doing better because they've spent £150m yet Real have a £400m team most have which has been together a few years now and win CL but finish 3rd in the league and that's a success?? Then you say i've lost the plot haha you're using the same ammunition to defend one and attack another
{Ed001's Note - you are again making things up, I have never said anything of the kind. You are the only one trying to twist things.}
02 Mar 2015 12:56:51
Madrid where desperate for for there 10th CL.
They came 3rd in the league but athletic and barcelona are also very good teams.
they finished 3rd on the same points as barcelona only 3 points behind ath madrid.
Madrid also played some great football last year, won the CL and missed out on the league by 3 points.
United have the largest wage bill in the league, had the biggest spend in football in the summer and may struggle to make top 4. While playing pretty average football.
I think a lot of people can see united are under achieving with this current team
02 Mar 2015 13:20:34
wage bill. really???
I'm Out
02 Mar 2015 15:31:59
Jred I wouldn't say underachieving really is right, I'd say unbalanced performances would be totally expected if u don't balance the team correctly with those signings in the summer, which we didnt.
02 Mar 2015 16:13:40
Chris
I honestly think this squad is capable of a lot more
02 Mar 2015 17:59:31
Mumbai I've seen the fixture list, liverpool still have us arsenal and Chelsea and some difficult games away at teams battling relegation so the games are equally as difficult,
Arsenal again have us Chelsea and liverpool and again some difficult games against relegation battlers.
And a few weeks ago when we had the best stats everyone was saying they count for nothing etc, ect but now the stats matter because it's not out stats being touted.
I didn't say "your" negativity matters just the majority of people on here have ritten our top 4 chances off because of the fixtures we have left, yet we have done a good job against set teams in the fixtures remaining.
02 Mar 2015 18:07:23
A lot more mate, Such as what?