23 Feb 2015 09:08:52
Lost a bit of respect for LVG this weekend for giving in to the outsiders slating the football style. The style was a necessary evil because of the terrible state of our back line and changing it this weekend cost us 3 points. No surprise everything you read says utd played well. but lost. I also don't agree with the notion that Rooney is some sort of prolific striker when 80% of his game is spent in other positions away from the area he is neant to be. Uproar from fans because Rooney was being played in midfield even though when he's positioned as a striker he spends most of his time in midfield! We simply lack the defensive quality to play the 442 football people are demanding and i'm afraid its a sad day when a manager gives in to the pressure of the media. If he goes back to playing contained football we have a chance to land top 4. if he plays anything else we better get our brollys out because its going to be raining goals!!!
23 Feb 2015 10:26:38
To be fair, I thought the defence was comfortable enough. We controlled the game, and lost to a heavily-deflected goal on the counter. I don't think the result is proof of the need to play the way you think we need to. I think it's proof that when you don't create enough good chances, sooner or later your luck is going to run out.
23 Feb 2015 10:55:11
Whatever line up he puts out should still be able to create chances and operate to a decent standard so many games this season the shape and play of the team has been poor. If it was intermittent I would blame the players but to be so consistently under par has to be the managers fault. ITa like watching great club players who disappoint when on the international stage. They don't become bad players it's because of the constraints and limitations enforced by the international managers that shackles them. This is what I think is happening to the players at the club now how else can so many big game players like Di Maria, Rooney, RVP be performing so below par so often. The players look like they have no input into the game and they have to do exactly what LVG orders, the fact that he never gets off his ass during the game supports this notion. he gives them his game plan and that's it no matter how the game evolves he sits there. th wonky bonus is that worse case scenario he is only here for 2 more seasons he is no different to moyes except people are afraid to question his philosophy given his a enormity in the game and his passed record of success.
23 Feb 2015 11:06:35
We have played a lot worse and won games, due to teams not taking chances.
Liverpool should of scored 3 or 4, southampton away was awful.
23 Feb 2015 12:57:55
I feel as if because ore than half the season has gone by now that the fact David De Gea himself should be credited for at least fifteen of our points is overlooked by many folk.
There is only a limited number of get out of jail cards on the monopoly table and I for one am worried we don't have many left.
23 Feb 2015 14:08:04
The fact that Swansea had just over 30% posession yet managed 11 shots, 6 of which hit the target and only 3 were blocked. yet you say the defence looked comfortable?? Not to mention this is Swansea add to that the fact they have just sold their best striker and top it off with 2 goals from midfield. People are so hell bent on thinking they know better than a man whos been there and done it that when he does what people have been pressurising him to do and it doesn't work they use excuses like we was done by a deflection, yet when were winning they're out for blood. The fact is the way we was playing was getting us the points and the only reason our defence was 3rd best in the league we lost 2 goals to swansea playing too open, against the much better teams we'll be looking at cricket scores if we play this way.
23 Feb 2015 14:31:27
Statistics mean d1ck, mate. I judge it by the edge-of-the-seatometer. That was about the first game this season, were I haven't even come close to being on the edge of my seat. There was no sense of panic. No sense of impending doom any time Swansea got the ball. Totally in control.
You say we all think we know better than the great man himself - even LVG doesn't know which way he wants to play, and he's supposed to be the expert.
23 Feb 2015 23:48:03
We've been in total control for the past 15 or so games and won and mostly kept clean sheets so the fact the game we concede 2 is the least uv been on the edge of your seat is a little strange. something not adding up there
24 Feb 2015 00:42:06
Yeah, we kept clean sheets, but it always felt that we were capable of losing a goal, every time the opposition attacked.
As for being in total control for the past 15 or so games, I'd suggest you watch them all again, mate. And we haven't even played any of the bigger teams, bar Spurs in that run, and yet our points return from those games, as pointed out by someone else earlier, is not even top 4 standard, never mind title-challenging standard.
Ironically the Swansea game was the one that we probably controlled the most. Other than the two goals, which both came out of the blue, and one with a huge dollop of luck, there was nothing there to worry us.
Sometimes teams just lose games that they should have won. It happens. We had a fair amount of luck lately, and that ran out against Swansea. Nothing to do with a change in tactics, like you told us all rather triumphantly.
24 Feb 2015 15:13:50
Our points in the last 15 games were more than any other team around us including chelsea and city. and to recap on your edge of the seat comment i take it you missed the clearance off the line that could have been 3 conceded goals and if a team has more shots on target they don't really qualify for the "luck" category.
Its a testament to your personal contradictions that you back up your argument with we've not played any of the bigger teams in a debate about losing to swansea.
and challenging for the title??? is that really what you have even considered for this term??? what exactly happened between may and august that gave you the slightest hint that was even a remote possibility???
24 Feb 2015 16:22:35
Think you need to chill a bit, mate. Just reading your posts is giving me a headache. Not enough spaces and far too many question marks.