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16 Feb 2015 09:53:51
LVG has said that we need a new Midfielder for balance.

Have we not already got one in Herrera?

Strange comments to be honest, it seems that when he has been confronted he has made changes we want to see.

When he got the 4-4-2 chants he reverted to that formation but position wise nothing like we saw at the start of the season

Now he's coming up against a lot of criticism about Rooney in midfield does this mean he'll play him as striker and a certain Midfielder where he should be and not on the Bench?

Also, does anyone feel his latest comments where an indication that he wants to Move to a 4-3-3? Blind Herrera and 1 additional defensive signing with Adnan, Di'Maria and Rooney up front? Or does he not rate our Midfield at all?

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16 Feb 2015 10:20:48
bgolgo,

I think it is quite clear that LVG does not rate Herrera, for whatever reason that may be, maybe he is not performing in training or whatever.

I actually do not think Herrera has been amazing when he has played, he gives the ball away quite a lot and doesn't defend as well as LVG would like, it is amazing how good a player can become when he isn't playing, earlier in the season almost everyone was complaining Falcao was not playing enough, a few poor games later and people are realising maybe why LVG was leaving him out. The same thing happened with Kagawa last season, people complaining he wasn't getting a game, but whenever he did he didn't play very well at all.

Obviously I think Herrera is better than Rooney in midfield, but he is not the long term answer in my opinion and that is why LVG will be looking to bring that long term answer in in the summer.

Herrera is a top player and in time will show it.
He just needs to settle in imo.
But the again lvg isn't picking him so he must be awful

It scares me that he thinks a midfielder is the priority - a world class CB has to be the priority! Everything flows from the back, he over hedges everything to accommodate our weak defence, yet he now says the priority is a midfielder, this guy is driving me insane. We have purchased Mata, Fellaini, Blind, ADM, Herrera and Januzaj has come through in the past 18 months. Surely the midfield is secondary to getting the defence right?

Herrera is at least the short term answer (I believe long term), he has given the ball away a fair bit, but far far less than Rooney does and he looks ten times more energetic and more creative, he can also tackle and knows how to create space in midfield to play unlike Wayne!

LVG is Mr. U-Turn.

Gds- if you think Herrera gives the ball away a lot I'd like your evaluation on Di Maria.

Herrera's pass completion is 87%, Rooney's is 84%, Di Maria is 78%, Januzaj is 81% and Fellaini is 86%.

So he has lost the ball less frequently than any of our other players played in cm.

Complete bull GDS, he has been our brightest midfield player when ever he has played and he is being left out for anything but footballing reasons. Van Gaal keeps banging on about balance, but he is clearly unbalancing our team by refusing to play one of our few bona fide cm players despite him performing well in the vast majority of games.

GDS2

I hear what you're saying about Falcao, but the difference is Falcao is getting the Opportunity and Herrera is not.

Its been said here by many that new signings take time to adjust to the League but without the chance in real game time we'll never see the full benefit of his qualities, we have seen glimpses. I think he has a lot to offer. He needs a run of games and he needs to bulk up a bit, but I think he's quite suited to the League personally.

From what I've seen I actually think when Herrera has played he has given us that little bit of extra drive and Zip in the middle of the pitch. He is always looking for the ball and playing it forward. He very rarely loses or Misplaces a simple pass. He takes risks in his passing. He's well able to spot a runner, the Burnley game is a perfect example for Di'Maria penalty.

Lvg has banged his head before he came to utd, the decisions he's making are ridiculous . If he thinks Herrera is not better then the cm we have he needs his head checked up.

16 Feb 2015 11:40:21
Danny,

As I stated 'I think' then it is my opinion that I don't think he has been amazing, I never said he has been awful or that he isn't or won't be a top player, I just think we will sign somebody else as the long term midfield option, even if it is to play alongside Herrera.

I agree he has been our best midfielder this year in terms of driving us forward and I think given the game time he could be amazing, I just don't think he has been yet, just my opinion, I didn't expect it to be a popular one. As jred said, I think he needs a bit of time to settle, and hopefully he can prove to be the long term answer. He also knows what score the games are going to be before we kick off which is helpful ;)

Juan,

I think di Maria has been poor recently (although slightly better against Burnley) and needs to be showing a lot more to justify signing a player for so much money, but again I think he needs time to settle and once he does will show the form from when he was man of the match in last year's Champions League final. When you by a player for that much you want him to be a top player at the club for years and years, so I won't be writing him off after a couple of bad months.

I believe Herrera should be given a chance and have said before the imbalance is RVP. Put Rooney behind Falcao and we are far more mobile, put Herrera in midfield we move the ball quicker. Herrera is an intelligent player, moves the ball around in tight areas, however he is not a controlling or creative midfield player or one who can hold a midfield together or defend when needed and that is likely the worry for LvG, play Herrera in the middle and he has to cover him with some physical strength and play a slightly different way. Rooney isn't right as a midfield player but he puts himself about physically.

LvG comments on a midfield purchase, well I believe and have believed for some time we needed a controlling, ball playing all round midfield player, Pogba would fit the bill. Who knows what they plan? The defender may already have been lined up.

16 Feb 2015 11:46:02
I think gds2 watches different games when he make such comment about Herrera.
Why Herrera isn't starting is equally mistiriuos as why RVP is always starting.
Some decisions just don't have logics always.

16 Feb 2015 11:58:57
rodio,

Sorry, do I have a different opinion to you?

Pretty much agree with that assessment Red Man, as good as he is I am not sure he has shown the ability to 'control a game', not saying he can't do that in time but I struggle to find a game where he has done it. I only said he wasn't amazing, not that I am putting him on a par with Kleberson.

What every the reason it will be part of lvg master plan.
And he is never wrong

16 Feb 2015 12:34:49
jred,

Who's said that mate?

Stats can be misleading, Anderson has an 88% pass completion rating. Just saying. Just as a side note, he never once passed Greggs or Burger King.

16 Feb 2015 13:19:38
If you paid attention to what he actually said he said there's too many creative players than defensive. We have falcao, van persie, Rooney, Mata, januzaj, di Mari, young?, valancia?, and Herrera. Defensively we have fellaini, blind and Carrick. The options aren't as good. We need a dominant powerful presence, basically a pogba or a Vidal. Somehow sky spin this into we need a creative player which is total pish. If we sign ppgba as an example and stick Herrera next to him then things improve.

We lack a physical presence in midfield. Carrick and blind are tidy passers and interceptors but not the most physical. Fellaini is quite physical but poor on the ball. Rooney offers a mix of what's required. Herrera can drive, has the passing but isn't defensively good enough so we lose balance. Its quite simple really.

{Ed001's Note - Pogba is a creative midfielder, not a defensive one. Vidal is a creative driving force, not a defensive midfielder. Both are physical, but neither are defensive.}

16 Feb 2015 14:34:51
I wasn't quite clear ed. I mean we need a physical driving force in midfield. But we also lack defensive options. Pogba and Vidal were just examples to use. Personally I wouldn't move for either but couldn't think of another example other than everyone's favourite strootman who I also wouldn't go near so its tricky really to think of who i'd go for.

Before anyone asks, strootmans injuries rule him out, same with Vidal, and pogbas just a mercenary

{Ed001's Note - ok mate, sorry.}

16 Feb 2015 15:07:00
No worries mate, full of man flu so brains half working.

{Ed001's Note - we should just be glad you managed to summon up the strength to type then! You should be having a word with your other half - she shouldn't be leaving you to do these things on your own, it could be that the effort of typing tips you over the edge. She should be typing the messages you dictate to her, in between mopping your brow, plumping your pillows and fetching drinks. That is the problem with women, they just don't understand just how dangerous man flu is, because they are immune. They are so insensitive!}

16 Feb 2015 15:55:23
The perfect player IMO is Radja Nainggolan. Similar to Vidal but more defensively minded, can also pass well and score but loves a good, hard tackle more than anything else.

Speaking of which ed/s what happened to my post regarding Nainggolan yesterday? Seems like it wasn't posted anywhere! Cheers

{Ed001's Note - was it aimed at Ed002 or Ed004? Ed002 is traveling through the Solihull area so probably can't get any internet, as I don't think wifi has reached the outer reaches of Birmingham. Oh wait never mind, Warsaw, not Walsall, doh. Yeah so he is traveling anyway. Ed004 just hasn't been about today, probably recovering from a binge drinking session with his mates and talking about that girl over there. One day he might even pluck up the courage to talk to her, rather than just gawping from the corner...}

16 Feb 2015 19:35:39
She was on dvd changing duties ed. Has to concentrate on putting the right one in, don't want to finish episode 4 and start on episode 9.

17 Feb 2015 06:49:56
It was for Ed002 but i've seen he's answered it now thank you!

As for ed004, sounds like he's struggling with the old dutch courage, or should I say lack of. Not too dissimilar to a certain manager at a certain club at the moment haha.

{Ed001's Note - it is always difficult to lose that cherry, bless him.}





 

 

 
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