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16 Feb 2015 23:06:24
Davie Moyes's signings (Felliani in particular, who was slated by all) are fast becoming key players in our team. Not bad from a guy who had no idea what he was doing and completely out of his depth.

It's a funny old game.

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16 Feb 2015 23:53:49
Yes I thought juan mata had his best game for a while tonight. Which other signings other than Fellaini who was awful under moyes played well tonight?

A post that says it isn't Lvg but Moyes we have to thank this morning for a win. Let's look at Moyes major signings. Mata can't command a regular place, bought for £37m for a position we didn't need to buy for. Then Fellaini, the simple issue last season is that Moyes, having had him for years, knew his best position but was too scared to play him in it. Moyes knew how Fellaini could play but also knew there would be criticism of playing him that way and bottled it. LvG has recognised Fellaini's attributes and doesn't care what people think, uses him appropriately. So our thanks to jmb as we can now glaringly see the difference from last years Fellaini to this years, managerial bottle.

It is easy to forget that Fellaini was a key player for Everton a couple of seasons ago. Last year he seemed lost and overwhelmed in our side but this season I think he's certainly found his niche in the United line up.

17 Feb 2015 02:07:44
GDS - I was more alluding to Felliani here. I think you'll find under Moyes Felliani played the best football of his career at Everton so that's a horrible statement for you to make.

Herrera and Shaw could effectively be classed as Moyes signings as it was him and Woodward who earmarked them.

As for Juan Mata he is our best technical player and has not been utilised properly at all by LVG. Another talented player being wasted this season like Falcao, Di Maria and Januzaj.

Please GDS think before you post mate.

17 Feb 2015 05:31:14
Red Man are you are so far in the 'LVG is the best thing to happen since sliced bread camp' you can't give out a little praise at all to anyone else? When LVG does something well I praise him as I do everyone else whether that be Moyes, Fergie or whomever.

Mata and Felliani I discussed above and like I said Herrera and Shaw were signings earmarked by Moyes not LVG.

It gives a good insight into your anti Moyes psyche (or vendetta) that you can't even give him one little plaudits. Shame.

Red Man - managerial bottle, you must be talking about the manager who admits that Rooney's best position is up front and then plays him in midfield, the manager who plays a right winger at right back, the manager who plays an out of form RVP no matter what, the manager who sits one of our best midfielder on the bench and plays a striker in midfield, I see what you mean by managerial bottle.
If LVG has such managerial bottle we will no doubt see Rooney and Fellani playing up front for most of the rest of the season, I won't hold my breath.
By the way I was never a Moyes fan but don't buy into the constant criticism of him, as for LVG I don't see him as quite the genius you do and will give him time like I was prepared to do with Moyes.

17 Feb 2015 06:58:07
I love the fact u seemingly found abuse in my post but then write 3 baiting other jmb, funny old page this one.

17 Feb 2015 08:02:05
I wouldn't say Mata or fellaini have become 'key' players tbh. Calling Shaw and Herrera Moyes signings is a bit of a stretch too, the club were interested in both pre Moyes.

17 Feb 2015 08:19:36
I've just read JMB's 3 posts again this morning and they are quite clearly a wind up, I can't believe I bit last night at such a ridiculous post. There was no need for any mention of moyes and the whole statement is untrue, so wasn't even worth a reply.

If you think Fellaini was good under moyes last season JMB then you are wrong, but again, I think this whole post was just trolling for a reaction and I am annoyed I gave you one.

Juan would you just drop this Moyes talk? If you are so into him then Sociedad await. For now we have LvG, hate him or love him we are stuck with him, so let's get behind the team!

Got to say I agree with Redman completely. If I had the choice, fellaini would never have been bought. As for Mata, I said 8 months ago that he doesn't influence games. Chelsea bought Fabregas for £34m and sold us Mata for £37m ! I know who I would prefer playing for our side, Fabregas any day.
While I have given lvg compliments and stick, I have struggled to read one positive post that JuanMbeard has posted re lvg!!
Listen, the football we're playing is not attractive, but we have to give this guy a chance, believe what you like, but he got barca to play the way they do now, he bought and promoted the core of the bayern side that have been so successful.
Any comparison with Moyes is just ridiculous. Just a little reminder, Moyes asking our team to hit 84 crosses against the tallest defender in the league last year of which only one was successful. That is the Moyes you need to remember. So please stop fantasising about Moyes as if he was some kind of untapped talent that we let go. He's had 14 years management in top flight and won NOTHING.

If moyes had played felliani up front he would of got slated.
Lvg can do no wrong in some peoples eyes

17 Feb 2015 09:20:02
Sorry Chris I don't understand.?

17 Feb 2015 09:30:37
Stop biting guys, it is clearly a wind up.

jred,

Again, for the millionth time, nobody has said lvg can do no wrong, but JMB is giving Moyes credit for something he didn't do, stop banging the 'LVG can do no wrong' drum, you've said it about 50 times now.

Nomidfield, I fantasise about Moyes a lot. He's wearing hot pants, stilettos and not much else.

So much bad feelings against fellow posters, remember we all have something in common here.
UNITED, so why are we always divided.
Its only different opinions.

17 Feb 2015 09:55:17
GDS - again read the post mate I said Felliani played his best football under Moyes at Everton. Who said anything about last season? Come on.

Nomid - If the board had backed Moyes then Fabregas would be in our midfield today rather than Chelsea's. Also if you look through my posts I have given LVG credit when credit is due but it so happens that is very seldom at the minute.

HB - you misquote me. I said 'becoming'. Felliani has been more key than Di Maria and Falcao combined this season.

Mbd - is that what you said last year? Or were you banging the Moyes out drum? Thought as much.

As soon as you mention Moyes in any positive light all the LVG fanboys start freaking out.

JRed - spot on mate. One rule for some another rule for others.

And I am not trolling I am just expressing an opinion. Is that forbidden on this page?

17 Feb 2015 10:28:30
Your original post said David Moyes signings, which is more than one.

Why are you talking about how Fellaini played at Everton? It means nothing.

Anyway, let's leave it there, the Sociedad page should be where people talk about Moyes, he is a minor blot / mistake in Man United's history that fortunately most people moved on from 9 months ago, we will never agree if you think Moyes was anything but out of his depth at United, last season was terrible and he made us a laughing stock, scousers came to Old Trafford with a 'David Moyes, Football Genius' banner and most ABU's were gutted when we sacked him as they could see what he was doing to our club.

17 Feb 2015 11:01:47
HERBIE, you always remind me of the hippy, surfer-dude turtle in Finding Nemo. That's a good thing, by the way.

17 Feb 2015 11:02:44
Jmb,

I didn't quote you though

Still disagree, fellaini has been useful at times but 'key' now or even in the future, no not for me.

Mata is the only other Moyes signing and he's far from key!

The rest just sounds like you're trying to prove a point about lvg/moyes, not sure there is a point to be made here.

Ajh,

Like the repeated scene out of I'm Alan partridge with the bbc executive?

Jred,

You don't like LvG do you? Just a hunch 😊

Gds
United decision to buy fellaini was slated by many of the above posters.
fellaini "wasnt united class and shouldn't wear the top ."
"Is moyes going to turn us into a long ball team " etc.

of course lvg plays him up front and every thing is ok , the very same people are defending the decision .

For some people lvg can do no wrong

Jmata
You need to be careful giving an opinion that could come across as negative or anti lvg .
Infact at all unbiased .

Let's deal with a couple of issues.

JMB
"Red Man are you are so far in the 'LVG is the best thing to happen since sliced bread camp' you can't give out a little praise at all to anyone else"
I have made it pretty clear that LvG was not my choice as manager but he did have a far far better pedigree than the previous incumbent. Then why should I give out praise to a failed sacked manager who we should not even be discussing the morning after a win and circa 9 months after he rightly left! The question is what is your agenda for constantly bringing him up and particularly at this time?

Mata, we all talk about needing pace in the team, buying strong pacy players then perhaps should realise that Mourinho has done some top business dealings, one of which was selling us Mata at that price when we lacked a true midfield general not another number 10. Moyes was not cute with that deal was he, wonder how much Mata would go for now? Very good player we overpaid for but not what we needed.
Moyes deserved no plaudits for getting us to 7th and taking us backwards, the question why you want to compliment him even now after a win is a more relevant question.

Keanooh
Repeat, I am no fan of LvG, however the man built teams at Ajax, Bayern and Barcelona so I cut him some slack here. Bottle is doing things his way and having the guts to change to plan B using Fellaini differently, something the previous incumbent did not dare do, after all Moyes didn't dare take a player off for fear of the crowd reaction. LvG may not make decisions we agree with but he makes them based on trying to win games and given his previous record deserves more time.

We keep getting people comparing the two managers and this OP even praising a failed sacked manager who did nothing for us but take us backwards. People can disagree but he got sacked by the board for it so praising him 9 months after his sacking is bizarre as is the constant efforts to compare him to LvG. I would be happy if people would not mention him again.

Honey
I don't like the double standards .
i was actually quite a fan during the 90s .
Its a bit like the double standards over rooney .
I also quite like to talk about football ,i think its ok to talk about the negative aspects of the game and still enjoy it and be a fan.

Just on lvg i gave my opinion on him during the summer i though it was a fair assessment and to be honest the season has pretty much played out the way i though .
It upset a few of the experts on the site at the time . But then again for many lvg can do no wrong and is a top top manager.
For me i think he us decent but was a top manager in the 90s .
His brand of football isn't great to watch and hasn't been for a while.
His munich team was painful on the eye.
But we have bought well and should get top 4.
I still don't believe he has a title in him tho

17 Feb 2015 12:02:06
I have no agenda Red Man I am just stating that LVG should not get as many plaudits as he gets by some on here. The fact you think I have an agenda is another intresting insight into the way you think though.

Noucamp that hippy turtle character was actually based on my lifestyle.
:-)

17 Feb 2015 12:59:32
I know that jred, tbf you have been very consistent in your views, which I respect.

Young has come good under LvG as well, oh wait he too must have been signed by moyes via fergie, right JMB?

17 Feb 2015 21:56:02
Young has come good because the system suits him. A system that doesn't suit most of our team. Would you rather have a fantastic Ashley Young or a fantastic Rooney or Mata or Falcao or Januzaj or Di Maria.





 

 

 
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