14 Mar 2018 17:12:20
When was the last time we played a team to beat them out of sight?

I think we are seeing how big a mistake that contract extension was now. At least it puts all those hypothetical questions to be now like, ' would you rather get beat playing great football, or win the CL playing defensive dross like we are seeing week in week out? '

I'm pleased all the Jose stalwarts are starting to turn, just as they did with LVG around this time in his second season. Jose is no good for Utd, make a change early so a new manager gets some prep work in before the World Cup.

{Ed025's Note - im with you beast..


1.) 14 Mar 2018
14 Mar 2018 17:24:28
Beast - Do you honestly believe that we'd be better off without Jose?

Who do you believe that's available that could take us to the next level?

Whilst we remain in the top 4 there is absolutely no chance his job is at risk in my opinion despite the quality of football on offer.


2.) 14 Mar 2018
14 Mar 2018 17:28:01
I agree beast. I was a Jose stalwart but last night changed it for me. It was unacceptable and there is no signs that if we add more players that the style will improve. This was our biggest game in years yet we went out with the most pathetic whimpering performance. In an ideal world I would want Jose to succeed and see out his contract. But I don’t think he can turn it around for us. It would be a waste to back him with millions again if this is the sort of rubbish that is going to be served up for the fans.


3.) 14 Mar 2018
14 Mar 2018 17:30:49
After his comments he said it isn't my fault it's Manchester United's.
He just doesn't fit as United manager on and off the field.

{Ed025's Note - very true leahy mate..


4.) 14 Mar 2018
14 Mar 2018 17:34:30
I maintain that three seasons is a reasonable amount of time to give someone of his calibre without calling for their head. However when a performance that poor, that uncommitted and that spiritless comes along and is followed by defeatist comments from the manager, It becomes almost impossible to do anything but doubt. It is not impossible he can turn things round in one more year considering his track record, however I am no longer even vaguely optimistic of that.

I didn’t want him because of his personality in the first place but chopping and changing manager all the time is small-time shortsighted and counter-productive. That performance was so bad however but it’s entirely possible in this case that it just may be needed.


5.) 14 Mar 2018
14 Mar 2018 17:43:26
I wanted mourinho a long time ago, but have been disappointed and calling for his head for around 6 months now.
He simply is not a good fit for United. His post match comments were ridiculous in the extreme and showed a lack of understanding and respect towards the club.
As for replacements, Poch or Enrique will have this team playing incredible football. Dare I say even Giggs/ Scholes might prove better once Giggs has had a few years experience.
My worry is that we've bought two world class players in Pogba and Sanchez and they're looking anything but world class due to his team selections and tactics.
Pep has managed to get a lot of expensive individuals playing as a team in 12 months. Mourinho has got a lot of quality players but they're not playing as a team. Thatsa sign of a crap manager.


6.) 14 Mar 2018
14 Mar 2018 17:38:00
We need an attack minded coach with fresh ideas - Jardim, been saying it for ages. We have tried the supposed world class experience with LVG and Jose, almost every manager becomes more defensive the older they get, just like normal people as you get older you tend to take less chances and are reluctant to try new things if old faithful is available. You know what works for you and you stick to it, tends not to work out in football as budding experts learn from the masters and eventually eclipse them.

Fans need to demand better, the board need to be held to account. Why the hell was his contract extended coming out of a truly awful run during the winter period?

Everything is desperate about our club at the moment, those that call for calm and giving the benefit of the doubt do not help matters imo.


7.) 14 Mar 2018
14 Mar 2018 17:48:45
Jose attacks far more in the press conferences.


8.) 14 Mar 2018
14 Mar 2018 17:52:55
Beast, in some cases calm and benefit of the doubt are exactly what’s needed. And in others it’s sleep walking into disaster. It’s sometimes hard to know which occasion is which. Like with Fergie, time worked. With Jose, it may not. Problem is we can’t ever know in a culture of chopping and changing and quick fix demanding whether the calm approach would have worked.

But as I say, last night was awful (as have many many performances been this season) so I absolutely can see why some would want rid.


9.) 14 Mar 2018
14 Mar 2018 17:56:59
It’s time we went with someone forward thinking and fearless with their tactics. Someone whose first instinct is to attack and entertain, not wait for an opponent to make a mistake or to hold off. It’s time for the board and the club to start acting like a football club and to care about what is going on the pitch and not about the £££s in our bank account. I fear that as long as we have top 4 and win the odd cup, then the board won’t be forced into changing the manager.

Get in a Tuchel, Poch or jardim or someone of that ilk. Bring in someone who will grow with us and implement their own identity on our club, whilst also respecting and understanding the tradition and style that we as united fans demand.

AAA you are right. Jose disrespected the club yesterday and clearly he does not understand or respect the traditions of the club. I was shocked at what he said and if felt as if he was trying to provoke a reaction from the board. I don’t want someone at the club who does not buy into the history of our club, or who can openly disrespect the fans like Jose did yesterday.


10.) 14 Mar 2018
14 Mar 2018 18:08:47
Agree beast. Anybody is attainable except Guardiola. I’d rather Nicky Butt be in charge. All most of us want entertaining attacking football.


11.) 14 Mar 2018
14 Mar 2018 18:09:51
I would probably be leaning towards the calm, give him another season, side of this debate. But those post match comments were more offensive than the pathetic effort shown on the pitch. If he'd had come out angry, complaining, shouting or even upset, I'd have written the whole experience off, said he needs time, and not been left so angry.

I'm genuinely astonished that he'd come out with those comments and surprised I haven't seen more shock in the media.


12.) 14 Mar 2018
14 Mar 2018 18:17:07
I also think we are punching above our weight in the league, it's only hear say but would we be in the top 4 if it wasn't for ddg.


13.) 14 Mar 2018
14 Mar 2018 21:38:16
Leahy
Where would spurs be with out Kane, Barcelona Messi etc.


14.) 14 Mar 2018
14 Mar 2018 21:36:31
12, that's a different attitude to what you bring to our site. I have your card marked. Lol.


15.) 14 Mar 2018
14 Mar 2018 22:11:21
Good point jr3e. Steve say nothing.