23 Feb 2018 09:16:27
Jred, not picking a fight or anything. I admire your unwavering support but just how dull does the football have to get before you become unhappy with what you are seeing?

Also, you obviously don't watch football for entertainment, so is it just about the bragging rights for you? Do you come from a family of city fans or something?

I'm trying to understand because I come from the other perspective. I'm almost not bothered about the result, it's the joy of watching an exciting game which matters to me. More often that not, if Man Utd are involved in a dramatic game then the result takes care of itself because we usually have the better players because we have the bigger budget. It seems counter productive to shackle their abilities.

So, like I say, what do you get out of the 90 minute borefest that is watching Utd because at the moment I'm desperately looking for any sliver of entertainment I can get from it.

1.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 10:08:08
MancMan,

I agree with some bits of what you've written, but it's mostly this paragraph that I don't agree with

"I'm trying to understand because I come from the other perspective. I'm almost not bothered about the result, it's the joy of watching an exciting game which matters to me. More often that not, if Man Utd are involved in a dramatic game then the result takes care of itself because we usually have the better players because we have the bigger budget. It seems counter productive to shackle their abilities. "

You say you are not bothered about the result and you only look for entertainment? What was entertaining in the Sevilla match a couple of nights back? What was entertaining in the schooling we got from Spurs almost three weeks ago or the away game at Newcastle, where we were outplayed, again?

We were nil-nil with Newcastle for a while, did the result take care of itself? No, we bloody lost. Against Sevilla, man-for-man, we were better, so according to your theory, we should have won? Did we? We came close to conceding more than scoring.

Bigger budget obviously helps in getting better players, but better players will only play to the best of their ability if they are allowed to. A cautious approach will never get the best out of your attack-minded players.

What you get after 90 mins of watching a United game is a false sense of hope that the next game will be better, players will perform better in the next game. After watching the UCL game (in India, it starts at 1:15 AM and you have to up till 3:30 AM and then go for work at 8), you feel like you wasted your time, because it's not entertainment, it's not snatch and grab, it's just football played in a manner in which your team doesn't lose.

And for me, that is unacceptable.

2.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 10:55:32
Read down the page I've said time and again it was a crap game .
And argued over and over this is a very talented squad .
I don't agree we need to buy 6 or 7 players it's an awful squad etc
Thats proved by our league position .
If we buy another 5 superstars will we suddenly start playing like barce or city? Not in my opinion .
Does that mean all our players need sold? Again not in my opinion .
But that's a different argument to " are we good to watch ". Are we effective yes like most Jose teams .
Good to watch, pleasing on the eye? I've never said that.


But there is a middle ground and as always it's never as bad as many make out and it's certainly never as good as some make out .
But this is the Jose way, he will do it his way, will it be great to watch, not imo .

3.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 11:35:36
So then jred should Jose be the United manager.
We can argue he is a good manager but the question is does Jose fit United?

4.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 11:46:19
Jred, my point is you seem quite sanguine about us being crap to watch whereas I'm bloody furious.

I actually disagree with you about the squad. I think we have a decent 1st team but lack real quality in depth particularly in midfield.

Raghav, if we went toe to toe with the teams you mention I'd fancy our chances in at least two out of the three. We'd at least stand a chance of watching some decent football which would make it worthwhile for you getting up in the middle of the night.

It's getting to the point where I might as well go to an empty stadium or not bother turning the tv on as a blank screen will be just as entertaining.

It's a serious issue for the future of the club. Boring football equals less new fans equals less future revenue and we know about the importance of money in football.

5.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 12:54:16
Leahy
If not who? The fact is he is our manager and as long as he hits his targets he will continue to be
Manc
It is what it is people always think the grass is greener .
Get our top players playing well and I still think we will find a happy medium . But you won't please everyone .

6.) 23 Feb 2018
23 Feb 2018 19:37:27
Jred calls it correctly. We all knew what we would get. Some of us expressed our reservations, some are happy to live with it. I don’t think he is a fit for our club, never was and never will be. But because he wins things people are prepared to put up with the down sides. Not me.