1.) 12 Feb 2018
12 Feb 2018 08:24:50
Are we really any further forward now than we were when Moyes or can Gaal was around. I agree with beast league positions can lie. We’ve spent a kings ransom since Fergie left and honestly how many of these signing would us posters really of signed. I can only think of 2 off the top of my head Pogba and Sanchez so what does that say about these so called great managers. I want attacking football not backwards and sidewards slow dross. Been a supporter since late 70’s and never been this disillusioned before. Please can we have the Man Utd back we all fell in love with.


2.) 12 Feb 2018
12 Feb 2018 09:10:13
My previous post wasn’t a ‘you have no fans at home’ dig by the way so please don’t misconstrue that.


3.) 12 Feb 2018
12 Feb 2018 10:40:56
"Are we really any further forward now than we were when Moyes or can Gaal was around? "

Yes, demonstrably so.


4.) 12 Feb 2018
12 Feb 2018 11:17:22
RWWD,

People have very short memories don’t they, we are so far ahead of then it’s unbelievable, no surprise people say things like that after a defeat though. I do kind of understand it, losing can bring bad feelings and make you think the worst. Have to step back and look at the bigger picture sometimes.


5.) 12 Feb 2018
12 Feb 2018 11:32:31
I agree a lot of the transfers haven’t come off but when you’re such a global brand quite honestly will the Chinese/ Indian/ African hordes of fans wait for players to find their feet, will they buy shirts with 'Smith' On who may well be class in a few years or will they only buy the shirts with a fella from a Nike/ Adidas/ puma advert? There is a lot of commercial pressure at United, IMO and so sometimes the name on the back may be chosen instead of the u unknown player?


6.) 12 Feb 2018
12 Feb 2018 14:36:44
Gds2 are you for real. So far ahead it’s unbelievable. Your standards aren’t that high then are they. Kings ransom spent and still utter dross being served up.


7.) 12 Feb 2018
12 Feb 2018 15:04:06
Wait, wait, wait Blackpool. I know it's a lot easier to make up an argument that no one is making to argue against, but it's more noble to address what was actually said.

Even if a King's ransom was spent and utter dross was being served up (whether it is dross, below average, not very good, or better than people make out is another debate entirely) the point I made (and he agreed with) is that we are better than when Moyes and Van Gaal were in charge. In every demonstrable way, (results, goals scored, points) we are.

That does not mean we're brilliant or that we are all happy with how we are playing.

Also, GDS's standards could be very low indeed (I've no idea without asking him) but could you explain to me how his standards affect a comparison between two options? Are my standards low to prefer a slap round the chops to a kick in the balls? I'm not saying I want a slap in the face, I'm just saying it's BETTER than a kick in the balls.

I remember watching Moyes and Van Gaal's teams perform. It was utterly painful. We are a lot better now. Please, if you disagree, tell me how I'm wrong about this specific sentence. I'm happy to listen.


8.) 12 Feb 2018
12 Feb 2018 15:30:34
Rwwd, we certainly are not a lot better, a little better maybe but come on are you really saying your happy with performances. With the money spent we should be performing a hell of a lot better. i'm sick of all this nonsense about formations, it’s players that win you games not formations or tactics.

Football has generally gone backwards in my opinion. All this utter tripe with sports science is laughable, yes they may be fitter and better athletes but certainly not better footballers. How many of these supposedly world class footballers could of hacked back in the 60s and 70s not many.

One question Rwwd, do you enjoy watching them?


9.) 12 Feb 2018
12 Feb 2018 16:38:07
I just spent almost an entire post explaining that being happier does not mean being happy.

I've enjoyed watching them about 50% of the time this season. I enjoyed watching them around 20% under Moyes and LVG.

It's not a controversial point to make. I just wish people would stop being so over the top about how abysmal we are.

We're pretty good relatively speaking. But compared to what we expect, what has come before and what City are doing, I'm the first to say it's not good enough.


10.) 12 Feb 2018
12 Feb 2018 16:55:02
Your deluded pal if you think we’re pretty good.


11.) 12 Feb 2018
12 Feb 2018 19:02:39
Saying the team 2nd in the Premier League are ‘pretty good’ is deluded? I’m happy to leave it to anyone reading to decide if that’s a fair or charitable appraisal of me. Have a good one.