13 Dec 2015 03:39:51
Ed do you know if the board is at least mulling over the option of sacking LvG?

Have there been any murmurs about that?

{Ed001's Note - while the stadium is full and the team are in top four contention, they are almost certain to keep him. The options are considered on a game by game basis, so, even though they have not been considering sacking him up until the weekend, that could easily change at the drop of a hat. If results do not improve quickly, then he will be in trouble, as they will not wait long before acting. The thing he has going for him is that he is simply there to rip it down and build a foundation, they expected a tough time of things.}


1.) 13 Dec 2015
13 Dec 2015 04:47:23
So it means OT faithfuls have to create a protest and leave stadium empty?
Or say make a 10mins late entry to express there concerns openly.
This joke is as harsh as Moyes era.

{Ed001's Note - it is the only thing institutional investors truly understand, as the internet is full of people posting up insults regarding the team, win, lose or draw. Until they are hit in the pocket, they find it very difficult to know for sure whether it is really the fans turning or just a vocal minority. When the most loyal stop going to the games, then you know you have to have a change of some kind. They stuck with LvG when senior figures within the club expressed concerns, they have stuck with him and moved on players that are not working well with him. But their patience is not infinite and he is pushing it now.}


2.) 13 Dec 2015
13 Dec 2015 06:02:55
i agree with u about people on internet moaning win draw or lose, but fans have been vocal with their chants during the game not to mention that even moyes did not get booed off even in feb while it was happening to lvg in nov.
Also the board needs to understand sacking him now, will give the new manager not only a chance to improve our squad come jan but also that sacking him now and getting some one like ancelloti will give us a genuine chance at winning the league this season, which will never happen under lvg.

{Ed001's Note - I am not disagreeing with you, personally I thought he was a mistake before he arrived and everything that has happened has made me more sure of that. The thing is, none of us are making the decision, so ours is just an opinion.}


3.) 13 Dec 2015
13 Dec 2015 06:09:36
ED01 if it was in your hands what would you do now?

{Ed001's Note - sack him, before he completely destroys team spirit.}


4.) 13 Dec 2015
13 Dec 2015 07:10:04
fair enough ed, we can only give our opinion, right now watching utd is like watching one of those psycho killer movies, those guys on screen can't listen to you, but if they did they would have survived.
By the way ed what do you think has pissed most fans so much about lvg, i mean we still are top 4, football and results are similar level as moyes's was, subs still don't make much sense, i remember that plane that flew before the game and most fans including me were appalled, if today some one tells me or other fans they are going to do the same thing, i would ask how much do i contribute and same would many.

{Ed001's Note - Moyes was following Fergie, no one expected him to do much, we all knew it was the impossible job for him, but LVG was appointed as a 'world class' coach who was expected to return United to the top. Instead he has reveled in mediocrity and his arrogant pronouncements about how it is everyone else that is wrong and he is right are tiresome. If there were signs of progress, people would put up with the dire football, but there are no signs of the team getting any better. Instead we have him spending huge sums to make the squad weaker, while telling everyone that it is not his fault but the fans' fault for expecting the team to win.

You can get away with being an arrogant arse when you are winning, but the moment there is a dip, people are on your back. It doesn't help that it is clear that players are just not playing for him, not one looks better for having worked with him. In fact most are instantly improving just by leaving the club.

He himself said it would take 3 months to get the team playing the way he wants, but it is nearly 18 months later and still they seem lost. What said it all to me is that he is complaining about injuries and using that as an excuse when you only had two more first team players injured than Bournemouth. The problem is not injuries, it is that he has decimated the squad, leaving it so weak it is unreal.}


5.) 13 Dec 2015
13 Dec 2015 07:30:41
thanks ed, i remember the liverpool game under moyes and in the stadium or internet forums there was a feeling of helplessness now there is anger rather than helplessness just couldn't pinpoint why. Also u have to say lvg has been lucky, moyes's first season he had liverpool and everton added to the usual suspects for a top 4 fight, while for lvg both of them dropped off alarmingly, and now any team can't even string together 3-4 match winning streak. let alone the sort of run chelsea or liverpool went on last season or season before.


6.) 13 Dec 2015
13 Dec 2015 08:16:50
Hey ed, i remember yourself or ed2 saying that "it will end in tears" or something along those lines when lvg was appointed. Sounds crazy, but how did you know that it was gona happen? i'm a liverpool fan, but admittedly i don't like seeing certain things happening to clubs even if they are our fiercest rivals. I can sort of sympaphise because we went thru the samw with rodgers.

{Ed001's Note - because I know how he manages, and it was always going to end in tears because of that. He is arrogant to the point of delusion and every job he has had ended in him being fired after falling out with 99% of the people at the club.}


7.) 13 Dec 2015
13 Dec 2015 11:54:42
Well yesterday performance was truly disappointing, if Spurs win today and United drop to 5th could it give the board a excuse to sack him now?

I think the main objective for us is challenge for the Premier League and to make the Champions League, making the Champions League is a must and failing will legit set us back a few years, I would like to see more youth given a chance now to legit make a claim for a first team squad, play them in the FA Cup, Europa League etc. The issue I have with LVG isn't the poor results it's the style or lack of it we are playing, no disrespect to Bournemouth but the team we put out yesterday should of easily won and played better infact any one of us would of got United playing better than that, we are playing bland football which is a sin for United, I rather we play the attacking style and risk exposing our lack of experience (and to a certain point to see what the kids are made off) than play the get the ball to Felliani nonsense, I believe that he lost the team and certain players are not playing to the best of their abilities for him, I think the players need to take matters into their own hands and ignore orders from LVG in certain situations (if anyone has read Diego Torres Mourninho book about the time he was managing Madrid they will understand my last comment)


8.) 13 Dec 2015
13 Dec 2015 13:58:20
Ed if he did get sacked around now, would it be giggs most likely till the end of the season cheers.

{Ed001's Note - I would suggest Ancelotti would be the most likely option, if Giggs was seen as ready, LvG would have been gone already.}


9.) 14 Dec 2015
13 Dec 2015 23:08:49
Wow cheers ed does this mean your opinion is Carlo temp giggs future?

{Ed001's Note - I was thinking more Ancelotti until someone proves themself to be ready, though I would be surprised if that was Giggs. Personally do not think he has it in him to be a manager, but only time will tell on that.}


10.) 14 Dec 2015
14 Dec 2015 08:14:07
I think if the board are planning For Guardiola then you stick with LVG for at least this season. If they are Not and Are considering Ancelotti then there is no time like the present before it gets, worse.
The players would enjoy playing under him, we would enjoy his style and he is popular and would attract players to the club.


11.) 14 Dec 2015
14 Dec 2015 13:21:07
I agree ed doubt he will ever be a top manager, top players never really do hit it off as managers.


12.) 14 Dec 2015
14 Dec 2015 13:21:07
I agree ed doubt he will ever be a top manager, top players never really do hit it off as managers.