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11 Feb 2016 20:25:28
As Ed002 is not about, Ed001 i was just wondering if you had any info about the mourinho rumours? Thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware there is little in them. Yes he is keen on the job and has made it known, but that is it so far.}

12 Feb 2016 11:29:46
Ed are people close to Jose making mischief in the media or is just the media being the media? Clearly the club aren't talking to Jose at the moment, and it would be pretty embarrassing for him if his mates were stirring things up.

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{Ed001's Note - bit of both.}

12 Feb 2016 14:43:19
I can't be the only one who doesn't want that smug arrogant sod anywhere near our club can I?

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12 Feb 2016 15:12:22
mrlee
lvg is our manager but don't worry i think u will get your wish in summer and he will leave.

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12 Feb 2016 16:05:51
I don't really want Mourinho but like it or not, it's going to happen in the summer, I rather Giggs get it long term but with City getting Pep we need to counter attack them.

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12 Feb 2016 20:18:40
I think Giggs needs to play the long game here, if it is Mourinho in the summer, then it's more then likely the job will be available again in 2 or 3 years so Giggs should go off now and get that experience with his eye on the future.

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12 Feb 2016 21:44:58
Giggs should be Youth Manager . Work his magic and then voila "OUR VERY OWN PEP". 😆😆.

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12 Feb 2016 22:13:28
It's looking more and more like that, I think a team like Celtic or Swansea be fantastic for him.

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12 Feb 2016 16:08:43
You are not the only one.

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13 Feb 2016 06:01:12
Shane, "we need Mourinho to counter attack them". I th No I get your point but people wetting their pants over Guardiola is getting tiresome. Jose is rude, offensive, unprofessional, self centred, nasty, has an ego the size of Saturn, plays terrible football, doesn't trust youth, splits dressing rooms, and generally causes carnage. I'm sure he's a lovely man, a good husband, and a great Father but when it comes to football I think he and Chelsea were a perfect fit. Yes, yes I know he wins trophies but I don't want us to sell out soul to the devil just to win a trophy.

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13 Feb 2016 06:21:37
I really don't get the romance with Giggs. What has he done to deserve this. Are people forgetting what job we are talking here. It's the United job for God sake. The biggest in the world and it needs a very big personality/ ego to carry it. Post SAF, there's only one who can carry it out. And believe me he is at the helm right now and if there's a perfect fit that can take this forward, it is Mourinho.

Why was mourinho a fit with only Chelsea. people have short term memories. Porto, inter and real Madrid a few that I can remember of the top of my head.

I can bet my very own money on Giggs getting the sack within a year of he gets the job a Celtic or Swansea.

and yes, to set some fear in Pep, we need Jose.

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13 Feb 2016 06:23:59
And what next. There will be a few people on here who will want Wayne to b the manager once he retires. People need to understand, football has changed and there won't be any SAF ever again. It has to be a mix of youth and superstars. Jose guarantees it.

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13 Feb 2016 08:40:45
I don't really want Mourinho at all but the vast majority fans do so congratulations you got your wish, don't come complaining in 3-4 years when it all goes south

I personally see the season out with LVG, see what we achieve and make a decision their, I'm in the camp for Giggs but as he lacking experience my next call would be Simeone or Pochettino, think Giggs needs to go and get some experience now.

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13 Feb 2016 09:38:00
i would be amazed if jose ( pos the best manager in the world ) does a worse job than lvg or moyes .
i would also say he would do better than giggs .
moyes lasted 10 month, lvg has been lucky to make 2 year, the days of fergy are over and like any other club managers will come and go, the pressure will be on and we will spend big cash on big players.

like it or not the club has changed and imo jose will be a great fit.

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13 Feb 2016 10:03:48
Agree 100%. Ok Jose has got big mouth and an ego to match, so what, so did Fergie. SAF upset a lot of people in his time at United. Including the racehorse people at CoolMoore, which led to the Glazers taking over. He didn't speak to the BBC for years and sometimes sent out backroom staff to do post match press conference's. They say Mourinho plays boring football, but again SAF teams were really poor in his last 3 or 4 season's. Jose is a winner, he got so far under Guardiolas skin in Spain that he quit football for a year then did one to Germany. Joses first term at Chelsea saw them play some great football and win plenty of silverware along the way.

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13 Feb 2016 10:19:11
Totally agree Middleton. Jose is a proven winner. Pocchetino? Really? Moyes all over again.

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13 Feb 2016 10:20:31
middleton
i thought chelsea played some good stuff last yer as well, madrid played some good stuff under jose as well. broke the record for most goals scored in la liga when they won the league .
but like fergy he also knows how to win ugly .
how much would arsenal of won if wegner did.

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13 Feb 2016 17:33:55
I don't like Mourinho at all, but it can't be denied that he gets results. With it looking pretty unlikely now that we'll be in the CL next year, we need someone who will attract the big names, instil a confidence of making the CL and altogether steady the ship. And I think he's the man to do it.

When Pep was still available, I felt he wasn't a man who's football I particularly wanted to see in Old Trafford but he's also not someone who sticks around anywhere for long (I think I read he's keen to manage Brazil at the 2020 WC) . For the three years he'd have stayed, I'd have put up with him knowing that in the long term, we'd have established ourselves at the top of the game for the first time post-SAF due to bringing success, attracting big names and giving our team a winning mentality.

With Mourinho, it's similar; I don't like his brand, his ethos and his abrasive nature. However I do believe that if he were to come in, he won't be here forever and that we'd definitely be left in a better state than we are now. I genuinely think that this season will have humbled him somewhat and we won't see such a brash figure in the future. Instead we'd get a guy who knows how to win, who players seem to enjoy playing for and who openly has a huge respect for the club.

Not an ideal choice, but in the long term, I think Mourihno for 3 years to stem the bleeding is a hit worth taking.

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11 Feb 2016 10:29:03
Just going to ask the obvious question as it doesn't seem to have been asked and lots of rumours/ reports in several media outlets, so apologies, but Eds is Jose to your knowledge or I your opinion likely to be United manager and replace LVG this summer? Thanks.

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{Ed004's Note - I think there is a very good chance he will be}

11 Feb 2016 15:34:22
Interesting, what is your opinion on him being, potentially, Manchester United manager Ed, good fit?

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{Ed004's Note - Not sure what to think of it yet tbh}

11 Feb 2016 08:42:31
Today's papers are reporting;

Mourinho to join in the summer and get a £300m kitty. He's also asked the board to sell Mata and Fellaini.

Discuss.

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11 Feb 2016 09:09:41
I would imagine there is an element of truth in the Mourinho rumours as too many reporting it for there to not be, but the nonsense about who he is going to sell is very lazy journalism. He sold Mata at Chelsea so easy to make up that story and Fellaini has failed to impress at United and most would be happy to see him go.

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11 Feb 2016 10:21:09
Mourinho with £300m would get us back to the top I think. i agree there is to much smoke for there not to be fire.

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11 Feb 2016 10:37:44
MOUNITED.

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11 Feb 2016 10:41:31
There's no way we should hire Jose if he's planning on blowing £300m on a cat.

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11 Feb 2016 11:16:31
Danny,

Brilliant, as long as it can play centre half and right wing I don't mind though. Some people would be happy just because it was a shiny new signing!

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11 Feb 2016 11:41:15
We already have Feline-i. I'll get my coat.

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11 Feb 2016 12:17:08
A cat would make a decent replacement for DDG.

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11 Feb 2016 13:28:04
I think there is too much being reported about Mourinho for none of it to be true. Some of it will be true - it is conjecture to report who he will sell and buy though at this stage. Certain rumours make sense, but that's probably how they came about: Varane and Morata being the main two.

There are a number of things I think he would do with certain players in the squad. Mata has a decent chance of staying, he works much harder now but he wouldn't be our first choice number 10 over Rooney. Fellaini would be gone for sure thank god - hopefully for a £100 million to China. I think Smalling would keep his place, Shaw was a target of Mourinho and would still be wanted. Darmian too. I also could see Jones being turned into an Ivanovic-esq right back - very similar player and may make him less injury prone being slightly more out of the line of fire.

Schneiderlin would be mourinho's type of player. Herrera similar to Cesc and would be used. Jose also gets the most out of the older players, this has been seen wherever he has been: Rooney and Schweinsteiger here. Martial would be key also but we would need a strong number 9 up front. And a new right sided player.

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11 Feb 2016 13:52:41
no.7 i think felliani could actually be some one mourinho would keep, while he is not your great pass and move midfielder he is actually a very effective player if used in certain ways, he could be mou's bruiser of sorts and i think some one like jones is in more risk of bieng sold given his injury problems and i would be worried if i were depay or januzaj for both have shown lack of defensive effort whenever given chances and something mourinho's expects from his team is tracking back unless you are an absolute worldclass player like ronaldo.

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11 Feb 2016 14:04:19
I think Memphis and Adnan would be given time. Similar players to Hazard and Oscar.

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11 Feb 2016 15:54:52
Mourinho apparently wanted Stones, Pogba and Griezmann the form the basis of Chelsea's team but wasn't backed in the market to do so. If he comes in I'd like to see him buy some younger players like the aforementioned in the positions we need. The youth development aspect of Mourinho is the only bit I don't like.

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11 Feb 2016 17:35:14
I think there are a number of players that suit the mourinho style in the squad and some that don't.
Expect the intensity of play to go up and the front line (probably main striker with 3 behind) to be interchangeable in there positions and work hard.
I can see Martial, Harera and Rooney thriving. mata unfortunately may be tarnished by previous ideas of mourinho.
Schneiderlin could be our Matic with someone alongside him.
stones would be high on his list along with Verane.
We need to embrace whoever comes in as manager until a point results and playare uunacceptable.

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11 Feb 2016 18:02:09
It wouldn't be surprising to see him move for those three again if he likes them. I think one of Varane, Laporte or Stones will be a target. We will take the best deal probably or just the one that accepts. Pogba would be tough to get, Griezmann would be a great move. Morata would be another good player that could be a target.

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11 Feb 2016 19:28:05
I think this is turning into a circus every tabloid saying mourinho our next manager if it's true then the club should announce it instead of van Gaal having a brainy with the press when they question him about it because he seems to be the last one to know.

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11 Feb 2016 19:56:14
We already have enough pussies in the team Danny 😉.

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06 Feb 2016 14:50:40
With De Gea looking to probably leave during the summer, a strong goalkeeper will need to be purchased?

Geronimo Rulli
Alphonse Areola
And of course Jack Butland

These guys need to be in the mix at being purchased?

Thoughts anyone?

Also, again there are rumours about Laporte and Morata being looked at?

Is this BS? Or any truth in the rumours?

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06 Feb 2016 15:36:27
If DDG goes which I doubt with Jose coming in. I think Forster or Schmeichel will be looked at as well as Butland. Dave will stay though 😆😆.

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06 Feb 2016 15:52:59
Forster for me,

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06 Feb 2016 16:10:21
I just hope De Gea stays full stop. If we bring in some more good attacking players we should be fine?

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06 Feb 2016 16:10:54
Butland, Perin or Ter Stegen would be great options. All have experience in a top league.

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06 Feb 2016 17:17:03
Forgot about Mattia Perin, he's a good shout!

Still hope De Gea stays!

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06 Feb 2016 18:33:46
Would love Morata, he's built for the premier league and for me he's one of the best up and coming strikers.

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06 Feb 2016 18:47:36
forster butland are both a good shout as well as ter stegen.

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06 Feb 2016 18:52:52
Where would he be going in the summer with Real likely to be banned?

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06 Feb 2016 20:11:10
I believe the ban has been appealed and they'll likely be able to buy in the summer.

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06 Feb 2016 20:11:26
Real won't be banned. They will appeal it and delay the ban, Dave will be gone. Also doubt Jose will be here.

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06 Feb 2016 20:19:17
China £155mill LOL 😆😆.

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06 Feb 2016 20:35:48
Butland or Forster for me. Hear Areola's a bit of a tit.

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06 Feb 2016 20:39:57
The ban has already been delayed till after the summer. Keep up guys 😜.

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06 Feb 2016 21:44:28
What Laporte rumours Ronnie?

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06 Feb 2016 23:16:09
Oh Wallace, really? Lol.

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07 Feb 2016 08:17:01
Thanks Shappy 😉.

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07 Feb 2016 09:19:08
Has to be Butland for me

Areola isn't ready, Forster isn't ready, Perin is the long term option for Juventus to replace Buffon, think Perin will end up at a top Italian team regardless

The only other outsider is Kasper Schmeichel but I think United would go all out on Butland.

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07 Feb 2016 22:32:40
It'll end up being Cilsen (spelling) . Ronnie - Butland is a decent shout and that's who I'd like but there's no chance it'll be the other 2.

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05 Feb 2016 22:31:59
Hi ed 001 the jose rumours seem to have gone into overdrive have you heard anything? Also if lvg steps down as manager can you see him staying on in a capacity to oversee the academy changes? He seems to have done very well in that respect.

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{Ed001's Note - no and no.}

07 Feb 2016 09:20:02
LVG will end up being involved with the Netherlands national team as a consultant or something like that.

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06 Feb 2016 00:23:42
munich

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06 Feb 2016 01:32:31
Rest in peace.

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06 Feb 2016 04:34:48
rip munich, GBNF, we will remember them .

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06 Feb 2016 07:54:06
Never forget who we are.

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06 Feb 2016 14:58:24
RIP to all the people that lost there lives on this tragic day.

We will never forget you.

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{Ed001's Note - well said. RIP.}

06 Feb 2016 17:46:45
Tottenham fan, R. i. P never forgotten.

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05 Feb 2016 22:46:30
Apparently, there was a secret meeting of the board can any off the eds confirm this?

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{Ed004's Note - We can't confirm this yet but we are preparing to send Bond (Ed007) in to find out if this is true}

05 Feb 2016 23:26:29
The signals are pointing to the special one.

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05 Feb 2016 23:36:39
I was there, it's true. They're not happy with the biscuits that are being served in the board room. The glazers are not happy.

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05 Feb 2016 23:20:27
Thanks ed004.

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06 Feb 2016 02:34:02
"Secret", the clue is in your post.

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{Ed007's Note - The clue's in the spelling of board... Or is it bored?}

05 Feb 2016 14:12:30
A quick question for any edds about,
Would it be possible for a club to put a clause in a contract to stop them going to a rival, or even to a PL club for a set period of time. Just thinking maybe this is why we are waiting for a certain special one.
A manager i once had was sacked and as part of his severance deal was that he could not manage another buisness in a 20 mile radius.

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05 Feb 2016 18:54:45
Maybe Mourinho wants to wait till the summer. Pre season to get his ideas across, enough time to assess the squad and a summer window to get his players in.

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05 Feb 2016 19:09:11
Not without the agreement of the particpant.

In the case of your old manager he will have agreed to that clause and as such probably got a larger severance package for doing so.

Under EU law you cannot enforce such a clause on someone without their consent. Its against the restriction of trade laws.

So if such a clause is holding Mourinho back from signing with United then it is only doing so because Mourinho agreed to such a clause as part of his exit from Chelsea.

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05 Feb 2016 21:46:47
We sort of did that with Kenyon. He went on gardening leave for a bit. I think its been done before with managers just not made public.

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05 Feb 2016 22:59:57
Just a mad conspiracy theory that came to me today!

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05 Feb 2016 23:20:04
None compete clauses are very common in business although I have no idea whether they are in football. I suppose with football clubs becoming more and more like businesses it would not surprise me.

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07 Feb 2016 09:22:33
I think Mourinho wants to weigh up his options before taking a new club over, plus all the negative stuff that was coming out about him before he got sacked will of died off by then.

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04 Feb 2016 17:17:35
t"Manchester United is the side that offered €190m for Neymar. He has still two years left on his contract but you all [the media] can be calm as my son is so happy here. "
neymar dad.

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04 Feb 2016 20:09:08
My money was on Stoke 😂.

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05 Feb 2016 17:48:55
New contract by any chance.

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05 Feb 2016 19:11:59
mort
he told a judge during neymar tax court case .
so if its all for a new contract its a good effort .
you would also of thought barce would be aware if we had made them an offer.

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05 Feb 2016 21:51:50
Call me cynical but usually when someone's agent, even if its their father, comes out and links us to their client usually in a week or two there's a new contract.

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05 Feb 2016 22:02:08
mort
so you think he lied to the judge.
would barcelona not know if there was a bid made.

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05 Feb 2016 22:38:13
Jred, chill out man, morts just having a crack. We're all very cynical when it comes to these 'world class' players being linked to us. It is a bit of a running joke that they'll after a new contract.
Did Neymars father really say this to a judge?! Or is it more just lazy journalism?

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05 Feb 2016 22:41:52
I genuinely believe he will be over here in the summer if it's with us I'm not so sure.
Project pep will be monitoring I imagine.

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06 Feb 2016 09:00:00
I read one of the Eds writing that there is a salary cap for clubs in Spain and Barcelona are only just under it. Both Messi and Neymar are due pay rises in summer which would take them over the threshold and there would be significant consequences to Barcelona if they break the barrier. Therefore logically something would have to give, my guess would be mire likely Messi rather than Neymar who is the future and Pep at City may have more pull for that. Neymar may want a big pay rise but whether Barcelona can deliver it without sacrificing someone else is another matter.

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07 Feb 2016 09:25:16
Neymar is the player Barcelona want to build around, they will find a way to keep hold of both, the league will not want to lose them so will probably give leanway towards Barca.

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04 Feb 2016 10:40:11
Are this mornings reports, about JM close to agreeing a deal to become are next manager true.

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04 Feb 2016 10:57:06
No idea how reliable they are, but I my own opinion is that he will be the next manager.

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04 Feb 2016 11:51:58
The talk about Mourinho died down a bit, we win a couple of matches and play reasonably well, all of a sudden the Mourinho rumours ramp up again . It's almost like Mourinho and his people are worrying that things might turn around at United so they need to keep the pressure on.

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04 Feb 2016 12:54:38
Bilko!, I had the same thought. But given my objections to Mourinho didn't want to he the one to point it out.

The reports are from Sky Italia, which is an odd source. We are not an Italian team, Mourinho isn't Italian nor is his agent. No one involved in any deal is likely to be Italian or based in Italy. So I'm wondering where they would pick this up from.

Yet Mourinho having worked in Italy is likely to have some friends in the media over there who would maybe be prepared to let slip some infomation for an old friend.

The timing doesn't make sense, the club didn't buckle and go for Mourinho when the night was darkest. Yet would sack LvG and bring in Mourinho on the back of two good results and arguably our two best performances this season.

It doesn't make sense.

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04 Feb 2016 13:09:40
unless united know lvg is going in the summer and are already working on the next manager.

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04 Feb 2016 13:25:43
True jred, but it still doesn't explain how people in Italy knew about it before anyone in this country.

There is no common link between Mourinho, his agent, Manchester United or anyone who works at United. None are Italian or have any tangible links to people in Italy. Seems odd.

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04 Feb 2016 13:32:41
who knows shaps there could be a common link we don't know about.
a lot of reports in italy allegri has agreed a 4 year deal with chelsea as well.

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04 Feb 2016 13:47:09
If results and performances continue to pick up and we got top four, the club might decide to go one more season of lvg with Giggs to take over after or possibly go with someone like Conte or Allegri for example . Mourinho may feel his best chance to land the job is to keep the pressure on lvg, keep the fans talking about him, chanting his name at games etc and force the club's hand.

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04 Feb 2016 14:06:45
i would be concered if a business as big as united was swayed by a story in the italian media.

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04 Feb 2016 14:10:41
We are not chanting his name at OT.

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04 Feb 2016 14:49:04
You know I agree that Jose has a bit of a deserved rep and is a bit of a wild card but he's also a winner of the modern game which is something LVG isn't proving to be. Something I've thought about is how Cantona settled when he joined Utd, he was a bit of a trouble maker a maverick if you like but he found his peace at Old Trafford and became the catalyst for the class of 92 to thrive upon. Isn't it possible Jose could thrive and settle there too? Lots of top players have been and gone at Utd that couldn't handle the pressure that being at Utd presents. I dunno I like the idea of Jose joining, he has passion and a sheer drive to win. I'd have Jose over Pep everyday, Jose knows the premier league and just as LVG has found we have one if not thee toughest league to win in.

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04 Feb 2016 15:02:29
Jred, I don't think the club would be swayed by a report in Italian media or any other media to he honest.

But it does keep his name at the fore front of fans minds. And as Ed002 has said the reaction of some fans has made people within the club rethink previous ideas.

As for Italian media reporting a possible deal for Allegri to Chelsea, well Allegri is Italian and is managing an Italian club. If Chelsea was to approach him there would he several people in Italy who could leak that info. So it makes sense it coming out in Italian press. Of course it could just be hogwash. I don't rate the integraty of the Itailan media as any better than our own.

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04 Feb 2016 15:15:20
shaps
i honestly don't think it is a big deal or very likely that jose is leaking storys to the italian media to keep his name in the fans mind because united beat derby and stoke .

sounds a bit daft to me but who knows?
allegri was just a bit of info, lot of talk about him going to chelsea.

i think lvg cards where marked when the ceo of addidas came out and questioned our style of play to be honest .

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04 Feb 2016 15:21:14
Matteo been slipping some inside info out 😉.

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04 Feb 2016 16:15:05
Personally, I think that LVG leaves at the end of the season - hopefully having achieved 4th again, and then Jose comes in as he will then have time to mould the squad how he wants it.

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04 Feb 2016 16:36:43
My opinion is that once Mourinho became available we were interested in him, however the board did not want to change manager mid season.

Considering Mourinho was coming off a bad stretch with Chelsea, and United were not enjoying the most fruitful of periods, combining the two (even with a January window) could have resulted in more poor results. This would have led to people questioning the board and Mourinho even more.

I believe Van Gaal is gone in the summer regardless of how he performs. Mourinho will be brought in and have a summer (interupted by the Euro's) to prepare (similar to LvG and the World Cup)

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{Ed004's Note - I am not sure it's as black and white as that. I think there is a good chance Mourinho could become manager in the summer but there are a lot more factors to take into consideration. Personally I think lvg has until the end of the season to prove to the board he is the right man and there will be others interested or approached about the job imo such as conte, blanc, allegri etc}

04 Feb 2016 16:52:10
Where does this Allegri link keep coming from. I know Ed002 mentioned it a while back, but it just doesn't seem logical to me that we would go with another manager with no experience of playing or managing here. Larry White makes sense as he has played here, Jose total sense for obvious reasons. The Italians like Conte and Allegri just doesn't add for some reason. I'd be quite happy with either though. We missed out on the best Italian, Ancelotti.

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04 Feb 2016 19:09:24
I would not be surprised by any turn of events at the minute. The quietness on Mourinho could be Because interest has gone or never there. or because it is a done deal and everyone's just sitting quietly. Mourinho wherever he goes next year will be refreshed and eager from his Break.
The Allegri thing to us may seem odd but we don't know what connections the clubs have across the world. and as 002 has said it is the long plan.
Others will be considered I believe. Conti I like but with the euros would be another later starter.
Lvg could turn it all around.
Who knows!

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04 Feb 2016 20:04:01
Well, the club need to do something about it, before we become a mid table team year in year out.

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04 Feb 2016 20:59:10
Allegri is playing some good stuff with Juve Shappy. I read before from ED002 that was suggested as being the LVG replacement in 2017 though I like many thought that script had been ripped up now.

I have a strange feeling LVG may see his contract out now lol.

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04 Feb 2016 23:02:09
Barring a miraculous change in events and footballing style, LVG is gone in the summer I think.

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04 Feb 2016 23:43:21
I think LVG will be gone the moment that a top four finish becomes mathematically impossible. Looking at our fixtures I think that will be after we lose away at Spurs on Saturday 9th April. Giggs will finish out the season and then we'll see a new manager come in in the summer.

I still think Jose is the best shout but can see Conte and Blanc being in with a shout too. Conte would be a close second choice although he wouldn't be able to come in until after the Euros which I think should be avoided (both Moyes and LVG started late and got off to poor starts as a result) .

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05 Feb 2016 00:46:44
Redseven,

After we lose at Spurs? Are we that defeatist that we are throwing away games before we have played them? I think if we win our next 2 games top 4 is very much a possibility, we are due a run of form.

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05 Feb 2016 01:48:55
Why let hope get in the way of a good story GDS.

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05 Feb 2016 06:38:23
It was an Italian Journalist that had broke the information about Pep signing with City months and months ago. Perhaps it could be the same guy that is touting Jose to be at OT next year. In my eyes, perhaps we never bought anyone in January as the board are setting aside the cash for the new manager in the Summer.?! Who knows!

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{Ed001's Note - no it was not, the story came from Qatar actually. Nothing to do with an Italian journalist.}

05 Feb 2016 08:08:33
It was an italian journalist who broke the pep to bayern story if I remember right.

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05 Feb 2016 12:10:31
Ed001 first mentioned the Pep to City link (through a Dubai connection) nearly a year ago now. It wasn't until about 6 months ago that our press really picked up on it.

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